Review Notes: After reading some reviews I decided to try them. A great deal from JR, $9.75 a 5-pack! I let them sit about a month or so before firing one up. They looked great, nice oily wrapper and rolled firm. The problem was I could not get past the first inch or so because of the poor balance/strength ratio. I had to toss this monster toro, but I will age these and give a second review at some point.