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Just smoked the Graycliff Especiale (red band) I inhereited from the 2003 Summer Box Pass. 6 by 38, has the same profile as described in drc's review, a wonderful smoke, now I know what all the hub bub is about, it lasted about 60 minutes though. Plus a little plume here and there, I think it was kinda old! If anybody goes on that trip again, LMK! I'm down for a group purchase. rns
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