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Old 09-26-2008, 01:54 AM   #1
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Vino WAAAY off

I've read on here that some people's Vinotemps can be off by a few degrees on the setting of the temperature. The problem is, mine seems to be off by 10-11 degrees! Could this be true, or could it be the hygro/thermometer I got from heartfelt? I calibrated the humidity on the heartfelt meter but as far as I can tell there isn't a way to set the temp part.

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Old 09-26-2008, 01:55 AM   #2
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Re: Vino WAAAY off

My hygro/temp is correct, but the vino internal thermometer is way off as well. Ive accepted it.
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The problem is, I've got the thing set on 57 degrees to reach an internal of 68. I just don't want to be over cooling my smokes, or over running the Vino.
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The problem is, I've got the thing set on 57 degrees to reach an internal of 68. I just don't want to be over cooling my smokes, or over running the Vino.

You wont hurt the unit having it running often. Also, you cant really over cool your smokes. People actually stick them in a freezer and freeze them solid.
The only downside to having the vino running often is the RH swing from it pulling in outside air and having to empty the drip pan often. Just keep playing with it till you find the butter zone. mine is pretty stable at 65, 65 right now. The display on the front of my vino says 60. so today, its 5 degrees off.
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The only downside to having the vino running often is the RH swing from it pulling in outside air and having to empty the drip pan often.
I dont think any actual air exchanges in the cooling process.
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Re: Vino WAAAY off

The problem is the efficency of the vinotemp. It has no chance to cool down to 57. Set it to 66 and see what it reads. What is your ambient temp?

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I dont think any actual air exchanges in the cooling process.
I'm pretty sure the air does not exchange in a thermoelectric situation it's just an electric element that gets cold on one side and warm on the other. The warm side is where the heat sink is on the back and the other side is where the fan is running air across the cooling element side, it should be sealed.
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I'm pretty sure the air does not exchange in a thermoelectric situation it's just an electric element that gets cold on one side and warm on the other. The warm side is where the heat sink is on the back and the other side is where the fan is running air across the cooling element side, it should be sealed.
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You wont hurt the unit having it running often. Also, you cant really over cool your smokes. People actually stick them in a freezer and freeze them solid.
The only downside to having the vino running often is the RH swing from it pulling in outside air and having to empty the drip pan often. Just keep playing with it till you find the butter zone. mine is pretty stable at 65, 65 right now. The display on the front of my vino says 60. so today, its 5 degrees off.
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I dont think any actual air exchanges in the cooling process.
Correct, there is no air exchange. The RH drops because the cooling plate of the Peltier element is condensing the moisture. The more it runs the more humidity it turns into liquid. If you need to run the Vino a lot, you'll need humidification that can quickly replace it.
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Re: Vino WAAAY off

I'm close to pulling the trigger on my first Vino and found this on Target's website regarding a 34-bottle:

• It is a normal function of the unit for the temperature to fluctuate; the unit is designed to cycle and this fluctuation of 5 degrees prevents the unit from excessive cycling
• Features double paned glass door, thermostatic temperature control and sturdy shelf racking for individual bottle storage

http://www.target.com/Vinotemp-Frees.../dp/B000KJRXH4
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Correct, there is no air exchange. The RH drops because the cooling plate of the Peltier element is condensing the moisture. The more it runs the more humidity it turns into liquid. If you need to run the Vino a lot, you'll need humidification that can quickly replace it.
Since his vino is running marginally more than it should, it tells me the peltier element is not getting as cold as it should, and therefore not condensing as much fluid.

In summarization, I would be a lot less worried about any RH problems (which i believe will be non existant since the cooling process is obviously near failure) and a lot more worried about the gross inefficiency in your system.

Clear the vino's heatsink on back, move it away from the wall, ensure proper airflow on inside element, etc.
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I'm close to pulling the trigger on my first Vino and found this on Target's website regarding a 34-bottle:

• It is a normal function of the unit for the temperature to fluctuate; the unit is designed to cycle and this fluctuation of 5 degrees prevents the unit from excessive cycling
• Features double paned glass door, thermostatic temperature control and sturdy shelf racking for individual bottle storage

http://www.target.com/Vinotemp-Frees.../dp/B000KJRXH4
That's because the 34 bottle one is compressor driven, not thermoelectric. The TE ones will run with a much lower temperature differential, although I'm not sure how much.
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That's because the 34 bottle one is compressor driven, not thermoelectric. The TE ones will run with a much lower temperature differential, although I'm not sure how much.
Not to mention the compressor driven ones will make humidity much much harder to maintain.
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Ah, thank you! So I'm only lookin' for the 28. Gotcha.
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