Rh Problem Again!!

[Danimal]

Originally Posted by jmgcash3

Sorry Justin, but I'm done with the wine cooler personally...I can tell you that I never had that much condensation. What temp do you have set to snap on at? Shut off? Depending on how hot it is in your place it might come on more in a shorter amount of time which can definitely cause more condensation (humidity fluctuations...) I just don't know what to tell you!? . Mine was just pretty solid...Sorry!

Do you mean you're done as in you're giving up on it? I forget if it was you with the plastic taste a few weeks back.. I only ask b/c I'm still thinking about getting a Haier.

[DsrtDog]

Originally Posted by jgrimball

It happen again!!! 80% the condensation on the back wall is crazy!
How can I better control this?

Hey Grim...I had the same problem with the Haier I started with and then took it back and got the Magic Chef I now have. I know others here have the haier and they seem to work however I have not had a problem with mine since I switched. But then again I live in the desert and the outside RH is at about 5 with the temp at 100+ so we are deffinately under different conditions. Hope you can get it stable

[jgrimball]

It worked like a dream until this heat wave! Damn 90 degree temps!

[Jason Love III]

Originally Posted by DKim81

Do you mean you're done as in you're giving up on it? I forget if it was you with the plastic taste a few weeks back.. I only ask b/c I'm still thinking about getting a Haier.

It was me DKim! As far as "cooling" my smokes I'm definitely done with it. I'm sure I will still be able to use it in the winter months. I can put all my stogs in the boxes again, uplug the unit and put the boxes in there, but as far as the refrigeration part of it - yes I've given up. I put my smokes in my old humidor and running the AC bill up. After 2 weeks in my old humidor (100 ct) I'm still tasting the same plasticy, coolness in the cigars! It SUCKS. And it seems the "power" is lost in most of the cigars. They just taste like they absorbed the freon and cooling....I tried 6 of them 2 nights ago and they all tasted the same. I don't know why I'm the only one who had this problem, but at least you guys can be on the lookout for stuff like this....

[RcktS4]

Originally Posted by kansashat

Yep. It's a wet time of year. Just about don't need any media at all. You might try some boil'n'bag rice.

second this.

I had a RH spike last week when the heat wave started here. I ran a hairdryer over my beads and that took care of the problem for a few days, then it came back. I think KHat's idea is solid - something to absorb the bulk of the high humidity. i also ordered another pound of beads.

Personally I don't fool with the johnson controller - I just leave it at a setpoint of 68 and a differential of 5. I don't really see why I would need to change this with the weather, maybe I'm missing something...

[The Rev]

I have been having the same problems lately with my wineador. I live in 90 deg. 90% humidity through the whole summer and I am convinced that that has something to do with my high humidity levels. If I open the door I essentially soak my cigars. I have no choice but to use a temp. controlled cigar unit because there is no central air in Japan. I would be begging for beetles without the temp. control.

I have a digitally controlled temperature set point so I can see the temperature in the cooler and my temperature set. It never goes more than 1 deg. off, and I don't have any condensation. But, I have two digital hygrometers that are of two different makes and they calibrated correctly and are never off by much and it is breaking my heart to see humidity up around eighty.

I have read all the advice everyone has given and I thank you all very much. I have two pounds of heartfelt beads arriving in three days and I am going to see if that will make a difference.

I put in these closet de-mumidifier things that my wife has and they got it down some. Thank God! But, if I open the door the humidity just skyrockets.

Essentially, I am hoping that it is an environmental problem and not something that is inherently wrong with wineadors.

Thanks to all the guys who posted advice and thanks to Grimball for asking. I was to shy to ask and it has been killing me this week. Thankyou, Thankyou, Thankyou---I now know I am not alone!

[colgate]

Originally Posted by Da Klugs

Two words:

Air Conditioning. I set my office at 70 and bam. No problems.

Do you guys live on the beach in thatch huts or something?

95 degrees outside today. 80% RH.

Open the door and it's like a blast furnace in the face. Yeah we live in extreme environments. Southeast Texas and places south east of us have issues with the weather and a wineador, lowering Johnsons not withstanding.

If I set my A/C to 70 I would be paying about $400 a month for electricity. I keep my thermostat for the house at 80.

[colgate]

Originally Posted by RcktS4

Personally I don't fool with the johnson controller - I just leave it at a setpoint of 68 and a differential of 5. I don't really see why I would need to change this with the weather, maybe I'm missing something...

It has to do with how often it comes on. Whenever the condenser kicks in the humidity drops 20 points in 5 minutes. If you are getting constantly high readings you can lower the set point to lower "average" rh. I have given up on constant rh being achievable so I take comfort in not going above a peak point and what the average is. It's an on the fly reading, not graphed or anything.

[RcktS4]

Originally Posted by colgate

It has to do with how often it comes on. Whenever the condenser kicks in the humidity drops 20 points in 5 minutes. If you are getting constantly high readings you can lower the set point to lower "average" rh. I have given up on constant rh being achievable so I take comfort in not going above a peak point and what the average is. It's an on the fly reading, not graphed or anything.

Yes, but the RH comes right back up again as long as the fan is running when it shuts off, so I assume that these 'transients' really have next to no effect. articularly when all of my sticks are in boxes. I've been nothing but happy with the cooler until now, and my cigars seem happy enough. If I can jsut get something to pick up the humidity spikes when weather changes, like last week, I think I'll be fine. I'm going to try a rice bag, or possibly the salt dish.

I have also taken to using my desktop humi to 'smoke from', limiting how often I open the cooler to twice a week or so at most. This seems to help a lot too.

[Jason Love III]

Originally Posted by colgate

If I set my A/C to 70 I would be paying about $400 a month for electricity. I keep my thermostat for the house at 80.

I'm pretty much in the same boat....

[colgate]

Originally Posted by RcktS4

Yes, but the RH comes right back up again as long as the fan is running when it shuts off, so I assume that these 'transients' really have next to no effect. articularly when all of my sticks are in boxes. I've been nothing but happy with the cooler until now, and my cigars seem happy enough. If I can jsut get something to pick up the humidity spikes when weather changes, like last week, I think I'll be fine. I'm going to try a rice bag, or possibly the salt dish.

I have also taken to using my desktop humi to 'smoke from', limiting how often I open the cooler to twice a week or so at most. This seems to help a lot too.

Actually I'm happy with my smokes. The trick is to underhumidify if you are going to err. Too much RH is no good. I use a separate Glycol water soaked floral foam in an old VCR cassette holder with holes drilled to help raise it if it's averaging too low.

[RcktS4]

Originally Posted by colgate

Actually I'm happy with my smokes. The trick is to underhumidify if you are going to err. Too much RH is no good. I use a separate Glycol water soaked floral foam in an old VCR cassette holder with holes drilled to help raise it if it's averaging too low.

definitely agree with erring on low side. that's why that humidity spike has me so concerned - I can just picture the cracked feet if that becomes a regular event.

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by jmgcash3

It was me DKim! As far as "cooling" my smokes I'm definitely done with it. I'm sure I will still be able to use it in the winter months. I can put all my stogs in the boxes again, uplug the unit and put the boxes in there, but as far as the refrigeration part of it - yes I've given up. I put my smokes in my old humidor and running the AC bill up. After 2 weeks in my old humidor (100 ct) I'm still tasting the same plasticy, coolness in the cigars! It SUCKS. And it seems the "power" is lost in most of the cigars. They just taste like they absorbed the freon and cooling....I tried 6 of them 2 nights ago and they all tasted the same. I don't know why I'm the only one who had this problem, but at least you guys can be on the lookout for stuff like this....

Honestly I don't think the cooling part has anything to do with the taste. The freon doesn't come out of the coils to cool it so there is no way it could pick up a taste from the cooler being on or off. So if you got the taste with it on you would probably get it with it off.

I think you should get some soapy water and wash that wine cooler out really good then try it again with some cheap smokes. I would be happy to mail you a few cheaper smokes to give it a shot and see if it still gives the taste.

[Jason Love III]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Honestly I don't think the cooling part has anything to do with the taste. The freon doesn't come out of the coils to cool it so there is no way it could pick up a taste from the cooler being on or off. So if you got the taste with it on you would probably get it with it off.

I think you should get some soapy water and wash that wine cooler out really good then try it again with some cheap smokes. I would be happy to mail you a few cheaper smokes to give it a shot and see if it still gives the taste.

Yeah, this is gonna be my weekend project Nathan - That'd be GREAT if it works out....

[Nathan]

PM me your address. I will send you some smokes that you can test it out with. Put one in the wine cooler one in your other humidor and see if you can tell the difference.