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Old 06-28-2008, 05:18 PM   #1
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We all love in cigar smoke. All we can not live without our cigars. Most of us use humidors. I would like to ask about your experience with humidor?
Sorry, if matters are not quite understand places - this is because of the google translator, which I use. If something is written inaudibility, do not be afraid to ask.
And now is to help me ask the following questions - this is very important for me and it is possible that falls into a promising Russian magazine about cigars - so that, if desired, after answering the questions indicate your full name.


1. Preliminary preparations: deceptive or need? Is it true that before using the humidor internal walls must be soaked in water?
2. Price determines the quality, or just the design?
3. What country do better? If you can answer, why not?
4. Are there new items in technology manufacturing hyumidors?
5. Does external cover anything other than aesthetics?
6. How durable Humidor? For what reason fails and how to extend the service?
7. The aroma of wood transferred cigars? It affects the flavor of your hyumidor cigars?
8. In addition to aesthetic, is there any difference in hand and machine work?
9. Protects whether hyumidors its aroma of wood beetles? What? Who checks?
10. Sponge moisturizer - from its size depends whether% humidity, or only the frequency of filling?
11. Wood hyumidor really absorbs excess moisture and pays it?
12. Humidor from solid - if he does not provide natural ventilation?
13. Is dry wood can suck out moisture from the cigars? And of cigars whether any of humidifiers?
14. Glycol - is still chemistry. Does this matter involves anything in the cigar?
15. Granulated moisturizer - whether it is something to stem cigars?
16. What do you expect to hyumidors development in the industry?
17. Tell us about your experience alternative storage of cigars: in the refrigerator, sealed jar, a box with a piece of apple or potato - such as cigars are different from stored in hyumidor smell, taste, combustion?
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I can answer a couple of these

1. When you have a new humidor they should be seasoned so that thye hold the humidity. Some people will lightly wipe distilled water on the inside of the humidor. This is a quicker way of seasoning but I have heard that it can cause the cedar in the humidor to warp. My prefered way is to leave a small shot glass of distilled water in the humidor for a week or so until the cedar can absorb some moisture and hold the humidity

7. Some 'fake' humidors use maple instead of cedar. This can make the cigars taste bad. Im not sure of the 'scientific' reason for this but thats what I have read

I hope this helps at all

Я могу ответить на пару этих

1. Когда у вас есть новые humidor они должны быть опытный, чтобы провести thye влажности. Некоторые люди будут легко стереть дистиллированной воды внутрь humidor. Это быстрый способ сушки, но я слышал, что это может вызвать кедра в humidor на деформацию. Моя предпочитает путь заключается в том, чтобы оставить небольшой снимок стакан дистиллированной воды в humidor за неделю или около того до тех пор, пока кедр может поглощать некоторые влагу и удерживать влажность

7. Некоторые "поддельные" humidors использовать вместо клена, кедра. Это может сделать плохой вкус сигары. Им не уверены, что "научные" основания для этого, но thats то, что я прочитал

Я надеюсь, что это помогает на всех
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I have also used google translator to translate into Russian, but it changes somethings, so they may not make sense.
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I have also used google translator to translate into Russian, but it changes somethings, so they may not make sense.
Thank you! I hope people will have to answer)
A small clarification: you wetting cedar only when hyumidor new, or frequency?
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Thank you! I hope people will have to answer)
A small clarification: you wetting cedar only when hyumidor new, or frequency?
Only when new. But personally, I would only put a small glass of distilled water in your humidor instead of wetting the cedar. Once the humidor is seasoned. You should keep some form of humdification inside it.
Like Relative Humidity Beads http://heartfeltindustries.com/products.asp?cat=14
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Only when new. But personally, I would only put a small glass of distilled water in your humidor instead of wetting the cedar. Once the humidor is seasoned. You should keep some form of humdification inside it.
Like Relative Humidity Beads http://heartfeltindustries.com/products.asp?cat=14
Sorry, this is granulated humidifiers, as far as I know - an alternative to sponge humidifiers? That so?

If so, what the hey granules - not whether the spoils chemistry cigars?
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1. It’s important to season your humidor before storing cigars inside. This can be done by lightly applying distilled water to the interior walls. DO NOT SOAK the walls because this my warp the wood.
2. Price does determine quality.
3. Hard to answer since most humidors sold in the united states are made in other countries.
4. Don’t know?
5. If the humidor is linned with cedar, then the exterior wood servers only to improve the look of the humidor?
6. ??????
7. Cigar does make the cigar taste better. In addition, I have been told that cigar beetles do not like the smell of cedar?
8. Not sure?
9. ??????
10. Forget sponges or foam humidification. Go with humidification gels or beads?
11. Cedar does absorb and release humidity?
12. ???????????
13. Dry cedar and dry cigar can and will absorb the humidity inside a humidor?
14. I do not use Propylene glycol, but it prevents the formation of mold and bacteria.
15. ??????
16. ??????
17. ?????
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1. It’s important to season your humidor before storing cigars inside. This can be done by lightly applying distilled water to the interior walls. DO NOT SOAK the walls because this my warp the wood.
2. Price does determine quality.
3. Hard to answer since most humidors sold in the united states are made in other countries.
4. Don’t know?
5. If the humidor is linned with cedar, then the exterior wood servers only to improve the look of the humidor?
6. ??????
7. Cigar does make the cigar taste better. In addition, I have been told that cigar beetles do not like the smell of cedar?
8. Not sure?
9. ??????
10. Forget sponges or foam humidification. Go with humidification gels or beads?
11. Cedar does absorb and release humidity?
12. ???????????
13. Dry cedar and dry cigar can and will absorb the humidity inside a humidor?
14. I do not use Propylene glycol, but it prevents the formation of mold and bacteria.
15. ??????
16. ??????
17. ?????

I tried to clarify matters incomprehensible. Thank you.
Supplement: when you answer, at the end of some of the proposals is "?" -- What does that mean? The answer, or question? Or you're not sure?

6. How long humidor is not broken? How much time he serves? Why break and how to avoid this?
9. The smell deters cedar beetles? Someone check this?
12. When humidor made by 100% from cedar. Cedar porous, and therefore misses out some percentage of humidity. This is bad, or is it useful ventilation? What advantages do humidors full of cedar?
15. Gel and beads - of these humidifiers can be derived substance? Are they reliable?
16. How do you think will develop further industry humidors?
17. Some people who have no humidor, cigar store in the refrigerator, tightly closed bank with a lid, box with a piece apple or potatoes to moisten - cigars, so keep that differ from those that lie in the humidor?
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When I wrote “?????”, I meant that I did not understand the question.

6. Sorry, I don’t understand the question.
9. I live in Miami, Florida, so I come in contact with lots of cigar rollers that once worked in Cuba. A old Cuban roller told me this and I also heard this from the owner of a cigar shop.
12. If your humidor does not have a tight seal, then it’s going to leak humidity. This is going to make it difficult to maintain the humidity. I good humidor has a good seal.
15. Beads and gels are very reliable. I have never used the green foam humidification units that come with humidors. These green foam units do not control humidity, they only release humidity. In contrast, most gels and all beads units release humidity or absorb it when needed. For example, if you buy 70% humidity beads, when the humidity drops below 70, the beads release humidity. If the humidity moves above 70, then it begins to absorb humidity. (http://heartfeltindustries.com/categories.asp?cat=11)
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I tried to clarify matters incomprehensible. Thank you.
Supplement: when you answer, at the end of some of the proposals is "?" -- What does that mean? The answer, or question? Or you're not sure?

6. How long humidor is not broken? How much time he serves? Why break and how to avoid this?
9. The smell deters cedar beetles? Someone check this?
12. When humidor made by 100% from cedar. Cedar porous, and therefore misses out some percentage of humidity. This is bad, or is it useful ventilation? What advantages do humidors full of cedar?
15. Gel and beads - of these humidifiers can be derived substance? Are they reliable?
16. How do you think will develop further industry humidors?
17. Some people who have no humidor, cigar store in the refrigerator, tightly closed bank with a lid, box with a piece apple or potatoes to moisten - cigars, so keep that differ from those that lie in the humidor?
http://heartfeltindustries.com/products.asp?cat=15
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When I wrote “?????”, I meant that I did not understand the question.

6. Sorry, I don’t understand the question.
9. I live in Miami, Florida, so I come in contact with lots of cigar rollers that once worked in Cuba. A old Cuban roller told me this and I also heard this from the owner of a cigar shop.
12. If your humidor does not have a tight seal, then it’s going to leak humidity. This is going to make it difficult to maintain the humidity. I good humidor has a good seal.
15. Beads and gels are very reliable. I have never used the green foam humidification units that come with humidors. These green foam units do not control humidity, they only release humidity. In contrast, most gels and all beads units release humidity or absorb it when needed. For example, if you buy 70% humidity beads, when the humidity drops below 70, the beads release humidity. If the humidity moves above 70, then it begins to absorb humidity. (http://heartfeltindustries.com/categories.asp?cat=11)
6. Tell me please, humidors become unfit?

15. Beads and gels - beads, as I understand it - is granulation humidifiers http://heartfeltindustries.com/products.asp?cat=15
A gels - what is it? and where they can be viewed?

Besides,
Tell me please:
1) so I set in my humidor beads, which are calculated to its internal volume (such as 540 cubic inches) and 70% humidity. Then put in huidor cigars - and of course its internal volume decreases. What if this happens to reduce the amount of humidity? She rises, or beads are still doing 70%?

2) beads as something react to temperature: cold, heat?
3) How long bead work and how to understand that it is time to replace them?
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for #6, i believe Igor is asking about how long will a humidor last and what are the things that will make it basically not work anymore

and for #12 he is asking why arent humidors made of 100% spanish cedar. is it becasue the cedar is porous and would not hold the humidity.
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for #6, i believe Igor is asking about how long will a humidor last and what are the things that will make it basically not work anymore

and for #12 he is asking why arent humidors made of 100% spanish cedar. is it becasue the cedar is porous and would not hold the humidity.
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1. Preliminary preparations: I've used both the wipe down method and a small glass of water in the humidor. In either case it is essential to season a new humidor. If you don't the cedar wood inside will try to draw moisture from elsewhere, and the most likely source will be the cigars in the humidor, drying them out. Also, if you do use the "wipe down the inside walls with water" method, do not soak the walls. Take a clean sponge, soak it in distilled water, wring it out and wipe down the walls with the damp sponge. You just want to dampen the walls, not get them soakign wet to avoid warping ogf the wood.
2. Price usually does determine quality. The old adage, "you get what you pay for" defiantely applies here.
6. You want a humidor that is well constructed and durable, which good hinges since it will be open and closed many times. The biggest reason for a humidor failing is that its' it does not have a good seal. A good seal keeps the humidity in the humidor, while a poor seal allows the humidity to escape.
7. The cedar aroma of the interior wood of the humidor can and will be transferred to teh cigars, which is a good thing. Many barnds of cigars actually come with a thin jacket of cedar around them. That is so the cedar aroma can be transferred to the cigars, which is desirable.
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