Exhaust Fans

[NAV3]

I've been dying to be able to smoke a cigar inside my apartment for the longest time but the lack of ventilation and the lingering smell have always turned me away from it. I have been thinking of getting a window exhaust fan as I can't do any modifications to my current living space because I am renting. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Andrew

[Dgar]

Originally Posted by NAV3

I've been dying to be able to smoke a cigar inside my apartment for the longest time but the lack of ventilation and the lingering smell have always turned me away from it. I have been thinking of getting a window exhaust fan as I can't do any modifications to my current living space because I am renting. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Andrew

Put your fan in the window, pull a chair up close, light a couple scented candels, enjoy your cigar. actually I dont smoke in my house during the summer much but there have been times especially in the winter where I might smoke one or two a week in the house. But just using a fan and letting it run for 30 minutes or so after your finished smoking should be fine. Maybe spray a little fabreeze, put down a little carpet fresh when your done and it's all good I would like to have a nice room and a real exhaust sysytem someday, I prefer smoking indoors, just hard to find places.

[Tristan]

This is a great thread. I am going to be installing ventilation in what will soon become the smoking lounge/coffee roasting room. I want to start on this project in a few weeks, but am doing serious research and working out the budget in the mean time.

When you fine gentlemen installed your ventilation, was venting out the side of the house a difficult task? What did you use to create the hole for the exhaust ducting? I'll be creating a hole in the concrete block wall.

Cosmetically, what does it look like from the outside of the house? Is it similar to the look of a dryer vent from the outside?

I've got boards 24" on center and haven't started on framing the room. It will be 12.4' X 15.5' and the ceilings will be 80" high, so low ceiling.

I was thinking of putting the most powerful fan I can fit. I am almost thinking of going with this:

http://www.ventingdirect.com/index.c...3731/finish/NA

but will most likely go with this:

http://www.rewci.com/fa8521cfminc.html

What does the actual vent in the ceiling look like in your smoking rooms? Can someone post a picture or a link to what you would recommend?

Any other items you fine gentlemen recommend besides a variable speed control?

[ryan35um]

Originally Posted by Tristan

When you fine gentlemen installed your ventilation, was venting out the side of the house a difficult task? What did you use to create the hole for the exhaust ducting? I'll be creating a hole in the concrete block wall.

I had to have a specialist make the final ducting exhaust piece to get over and out to the side of the house since I was squeezing the ducting between some wood beams. To create the hole in the side of the house I used a sawzall.

Originally Posted by Tristan

Cosmetically, what does it look like from the outside of the house? Is it similar to the look of a dryer vent from the outside?

I have photos of this posted on http://www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom/c...om_photos.html

Originally Posted by Tristan

What does the actual vent in the ceiling look like in your smoking rooms? Can someone post a picture or a link to what you would recommend?

I used a 14" grille cover. I have photos of this posted on http://www.ryandeyer.com/cigarroom/c...om_photos.html

Originally Posted by Tristan

Any other items you fine gentlemen recommend besides a variable speed control?

Must sure you are bringing in as much air into the room as you are exhausting with the fan. Otherwise you'll deprive the room of oxygen and create a negative pressure that won't be desirable.

[boonedoggle]

I use a Honeywell window fan with reversable fans...so you can exhaust, or freshen your room with air from outside. This fan has lasted over two years, and even though the fans have turned brown from the smoke going through, she still purs like a dream. You can get em cheap at the Home Depot and such...but, you have to have a window to go this route.

[goalie204]

my setup is ghetto but its a condo and all i can do

in the winter when the cold air is out there, i find the fan spinning slower and faster adn slower and faster and doesn't suck smoke out as well and sometimes seems to throw it back in the room. What can i do? this only happens with the cold cold cold waether?

[Wharf Rat]

A proper exhaust fan is, of course, a very effective way to remove odors. However, beaware that a powerful fan exhausting to the outdoors can have side effects that are potentially dangerous. The negative pressure created can cause combustion appliances such as gas water heaters, furnaces or wood burning fireplaces to backdraft. In this case, you could end up breathing bad things.

You should turn on your exhaust fan and other exhausts such as clothes dyers at the same time and inspect anything that burns a fuel for proper operation.

Bob (gas appliance engineer)

[Prospector]

Originally Posted by Wharf Rat

beaware that a powerful fan exhausting to the outdoors can have side effects that are potentially dangerous. The negative pressure created can cause combustion appliances such as gas water heaters, furnaces or wood burning fireplaces to backdraft. In this case, you could end up breathing bad things.

Bob (gas appliance engineer)

This is so true. I once thoughtlessly turned on my second-floor attic fan while my woodstove was quietly burning downstairs at the other end of the house. As it was winter there were no doors or windows open. Within minutes the house was filled with smoke from the back drafting woodstove. I finally was able to clear the smoke by opening the outside door next to the woodstove thereby relieving the backpreasure and allowing the fan to suck out the smoke.

Ideally your smoking room should be isolated from any part of the house where something might be combusting that vents to the outside (gas water heater, woodstove, furnace, fireplace, etc). You will need to provide a source of air to replace that which you are exhausting, but it can't come from that other part of the house. The obvious answer is to have it come in through a window in the same room. For this reason I wouldn't recommend using a really powerful fan as it will quickly exhaust all the warmth as well. I would go with a medium fan that has a variable speed control so you can vary it to suit your needs.

[garyatmaui]

Well, Christmas has come early to my house. In passing one night I said that I should build a man cave in the basement. My wife said she thought that would be a good idea....................I said nothing else that night. About a week later I brought it up again in front of friends. Once again she agreed and asked when I would be starting. Ordering of parts are underway. Drywall and lumber delivered tomorrow. Flooring ordered tomorrow. Three big oversized leather recliners being bought tomorrow. Home theater already here. Now back to your question. I researched the crap out of the vent fan because if there is even the slightest smoke smell I will be murdered in the man cave. I chose the following:
Fantech FG12 - Fantech FG12 Inline Centrifugal Fan - Galvanized Steel - 741 CFM Paid 274.00 for it. It has a 12" outlet which I will run through a basement window. Finding the 12" flex piping for it has been a bit interesting. Have to go to a real heating and cooling place. I will use the other window in the room as a fresh air entrance.

As construction starts I hope to have time to start a thread and throw some picks up here. I am estimating right now the whole thing is going to run me about 5K. Merry Christmas to me

Originally Posted by Tristan

This is a great thread. I am going to be installing ventilation in what will soon become the smoking lounge/coffee roasting room. I want to start on this project in a few weeks, but am doing serious research and working out the budget in the mean time.

When you fine gentlemen installed your ventilation, was venting out the side of the house a difficult task? What did you use to create the hole for the exhaust ducting? I'll be creating a hole in the concrete block wall.

Cosmetically, what does it look like from the outside of the house? Is it similar to the look of a dryer vent from the outside?

I've got boards 24" on center and haven't started on framing the room. It will be 12.4' X 15.5' and the ceilings will be 80" high, so low ceiling.

I was thinking of putting the most powerful fan I can fit. I am almost thinking of going with this:

http://www.ventingdirect.com/index.c...3731/finish/NA

but will most likely go with this:

http://www.rewci.com/fa8521cfminc.html

What does the actual vent in the ceiling look like in your smoking rooms? Can someone post a picture or a link to what you would recommend?

Any other items you fine gentlemen recommend besides a variable speed control?

[ryan35um]

Great to hear, be sure to post pictures while you're building it. If you run into any questions I know there are a few of us on the boards that have built cigar rooms and have learned our fair share of lessons along the way.

Originally Posted by garyatmaui

Well, Christmas has come early to my house. In passing one night I said that I should build a man cave in the basement. My wife said she thought that would be a good idea....................I said nothing else that night. About a week later I brought it up again in front of friends. Once again she agreed and asked when I would be starting. Ordering of parts are underway. Drywall and lumber delivered tomorrow. Flooring ordered tomorrow. Three big oversized leather recliners being bought tomorrow. Home theater already here. Now back to your question. I researched the crap out of the vent fan because if there is even the slightest smoke smell I will be murdered in the man cave. I chose the following:
Fantech FG12 - Fantech FG12 Inline Centrifugal Fan - Galvanized Steel - 741 CFM Paid 274.00 for it. It has a 12" outlet which I will run through a basement window. Finding the 12" flex piping for it has been a bit interesting. Have to go to a real heating and cooling place. I will use the other window in the room as a fresh air entrance.

As construction starts I hope to have time to start a thread and throw some picks up here. I am estimating right now the whole thing is going to run me about 5K. Merry Christmas to me

[garyatmaui]

Ryan,
Are you happy with the scones for lighting?
I am looking for some type of light that can be dimmed and looks manly
I will have my flat screen in the same room. The walls are going to be a deep burgundy.

Originally Posted by ryan35um

Great to hear, be sure to post pictures while you're building it. If you run into any questions I know there are a few of us on the boards that have built cigar rooms and have learned our fair share of lessons along the way.

[ryan35um]

I like the look of the scones a lot. The only thing I would do different is not to position one of them on the backwall, it can cause glare when lined up directly with the TV.

Originally Posted by garyatmaui

Ryan,
Are you happy with the scones for lighting?
I am looking for some type of light that can be dimmed and looks manly
I will have my flat screen in the same room. The walls are going to be a deep burgundy.

[jamz]

Great info, all. I am in the process of building out the basement office/smoking/gun room, and am looking at vent choices. Sadly I have to share the space with the furnace, but there is plenty of air coming in from the rest of the basement so a nice variable speed fan should work.

[Rudder]

I went with sconces also. They were put on a dimmer switch.

[Rudder]

Originally Posted by garyatmaui

Ryan,
Are you happy with the scones for lighting?
I am looking for some type of light that can be dimmed and looks manly
I will have my flat screen in the same room. The walls are going to be a deep burgundy.

I just had my flat screen hooked up to HD and love it.

I also went the "custom" way and had the door made.
These pics are old. I'll get some newer ones when things slow down around here.