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Old 01-16-2006, 12:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Bóveda One-Step Humidor Seasoning Kit

SET UP AND USE: [Score: 96]
The humidor one-step seasoning system consists of a Bóveda humidity packet, set at 84% relative humidity (RH). The set up is easy. You just insert the recommended number of seasoning packets for the size of your humidor. After waiting 10 days, your humidor should be seasoned and you can replace the packets with your regular humidifier or with Bóveda humidity packets. Couldn't be any easier than that.

FUNCTION: [Score: 94]
I used the system to season a brand new La Gloria Cubana Serie R Limitada 2005 humidor. The humidor contained 30 LARGE cigars. At almost 8 inches in length and 62 ring gauge, these cigars are really the equivalent of almost 50. Thus, I based my testing measurements on a 50-count humidor and used 2 seasoning packets, placing them in the bottom and top pull out cedar trays. I kept the cigars in a different humidor while seasoning the new one.

Prior to seasoning the humidor, I placed a hygrometer in the empty humidor to see what the initial humidity reading would be. It was 56% RH (I used a pre-calibrated digital hygrometer). After one week of using the seasoning packets, I put the hygrometer in place (again in an empty humidor) and it’s reading was 68% RH.

Finally, after the seasoning period, I placed a couple of Bóveda 69% RH packets into the humidor along with the cigars. Three weeks later, I am pleased to say that the humidity is holding steady at about 67-68% RH. This was a simple, clean, and foolproof experience in seasoning a humidor.

VALUE: [Score: 89]
At a MSRP of $3.97 per kit, the cost to season a 50-count humidor would be almost $8.00. The packets are guaranteed to last for 3 months, though I’m not sure what their value would be after you have already seasoned your humidor. I’m assuming you would buy and need to season only one humidor at any given time. Perhaps, if you had a large cabinet or “coolidor,” you could use the 84% RH packets to help humidify those larger environments.

Though the price may be a bit steep for some, if convenience, and function is what you are most concerned about, you need look no further than the Bóveda seasoning system. Chances are, you’ve spent a considerable amount for a good humidor and another large chunk for the premium cigars that will reside there, it hardly seems alarming to spend a few more bucks to insure a good seasoning of the box. After all, seasoning of a humidor is something you should have to do only once in the life of your humidor. Be sure and get it right the first time.

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Re: Bóveda One-Step Humidor Seasoning Kit

From the Stogie Fresh Site.

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This is just my opinion but:

It's cool to review things. Promoting other sites and/or your vendors or sponsors here might be a bit much.
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This is just my opinion but:

It's cool to review things. Promoting other sites and/or your vendors or sponsors here might be a bit much.
Partner or not, I calls em as I sees em. Call me on it if you think the review is unfair or inaccurate.

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Glad that you call it as you see it...also nice to know about conflicts of interest as well. Should have made that known in the first post. 2 cents
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Glad that you call it as you see it...also nice to know about conflicts of interest as well. Should have made that known in the first post. 2 cents
Sorry but I don't see a conflict of interest. I'm not getting paid to give these product reviews and I review them as fairly and honestly as I can. Not sure what else you think might be a conflict of interest.

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Sorry but I don't see a conflict of interest. I'm not getting paid to give these product reviews and I review them as fairly and honestly as I can. Not sure what else you think might be a conflict of interest.

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Not getting paid to give reviews, fine. But they are paying you money to advertise, right? That is a perceived conflict of interest. Whether or not it is actual and you are (are not) biasing the review. It is my opinion that the information should be provided up front. Let others decide for themselves how they want to use the information.

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Not getting paid to give reviews, fine. But they are paying you money to advertise, right? That is a percieved conflict of interest. Whether or not it is actual and you are (are not) biasing the review. It is my opinion that the information should be provided up front. Let others decide for themselves how they want to use the information.
Sorry, wrong again. Boveda is not paying anything to me or to Stogie Fresh, nor are they advertising with me.

The reason that they are a Stogie Fresh partner, is because they gave me a discount on the packets. And for that, I thanked them and put a link to their site. I also have partners that simply put a link on their site to mine, I thank them and put a link to their site from mine. They are partners too.

I get discounts at a lot of places, some of them are online, and some are my local cigar shops. But that doesn't mean I am gonna rush out and tell everyone that the cigar that I got at a discount was great if it was in fact, crappy.

Whenever someone cuts me a break, I thank them and am happy to put a link to their site or business (unless it's illegal, or immoral, etc ).

But bottom line, I never consider these conflicts of interest because getting a discount does not influence my objectivity and fairness.

Regarding the reviews that i share with the folks here, I do so because I think that some people might be interested. If there is something in my review that smacks of a conflict of interest, please point that out to me. Otherwise, you should take my reviews as you take everyone else's, as their personal opinion.

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It's cool to review things. Promoting other sites and/or your vendors or sponsors here might be a bit much.
Take a chill pill daklugs (and this goes for that other guy, jgros or whatever too.)
Did you not read the friggin' review - very informative. Do yourself a favor, and the rest of us too, and take a look at the information in an objective way, instead of spouting off about some illusionary moral dilemma, which appears to exist only in your head, based on the nature of the stated relationship between Dr. Stogiefresh and boveda. Better yet, before that, review the product yourself and then give us your oh so enlightened view of things. You're just making an unfounded assumption about the personal character of Dr. Stogiefresh, as, from what I can tell, you know neither him nor the people at Boveda. What the hell do you know about the validity of the information; nothing, I'm going to venture. If you do know something of value, make a comment about it instead of something about which you know nothing. Please quit stifling reviewing members (at the risk of sounding hypocritical, I say this, as I am trying to stifle you.) As far as I can tell, you are just a prejudiced MF, who hasn't lent anything of value to this site by your comment, here. If the truth of the information can stand alone, just let it be. We don't need your "every point of view" or complete transparency approach, which you seem to think is going to somehow change the information presented, based on your assumptions. Instead it just quells the spirit and enthusiasm members like Dr. Stogiefresh bring to this site.
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Sorry, wrong again. Boveda is not paying anything to me or to Stogie Fresh, nor are they advertising with me. not exactly wrong...asking question.

The reason that they are a Stogie Fresh partner, is because they gave me a discount on the packets. And for that, I thanked them and put a link to their site. I also have partners that simply put a link on their site to mine, I thank them and put a link to their site from mine. They are partners too.

I get discounts at a lot of places, some of them are online, and some are my local cigar shops. But that doesn't mean I am gonna rush out and tell everyone that the cigar that I got at a discount was great if it was in fact, crappy.

Whenever someone cuts me a break, I thank them and am happy to put a link to their site or business (unless it's illegal, or immoral, etc ).

But bottom line, I never consider these conflicts of interest because getting a discount does not influence my objectivity and fairness. others may consider this a conflict...perceived

Regarding the reviews that i share with the folks here, I do so because I think that some people might be interested. If there is something in my review that smacks of a conflict of interest, please point that out to me. Otherwise, you should take my reviews as you take everyone else's, as their personal opinion.

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Take a chill pill daklugs (and this goes for that other guy, jgros or whatever too.)
Did you not read the friggin' review - very informative. Do yourself a favor, and the rest of us too, and take a look at the information in an objective way, instead of spouting off about some illusionary moral dilemma, which appears to exist only in your head, based on the nature of the stated relationship between Dr. Stogiefresh and boveda. Better yet, before that, review the product yourself and then give us your oh so enlightened view of things. You're just making an unfounded assumption about the personal character of Dr. Stogiefresh, as, from what I can tell, you know neither him nor the people at Boveda. What the hell do you know about the validity of the information; nothing, I'm going to venture. If you do know something of value, make a comment about it instead of something about which you know nothing. Please quit stifling reviewing members (at the risk of sounding hypocritical, I say this, as I am trying to stifle you.) As far as I can tell, you are just a prejudiced MF, who hasn't lent anything of value to this site by your comment, here. If the truth of the information can stand alone, just let it be. We don't need your "every point of view" or complete transparency approach, which you seem to think is going to somehow change the information presented, based on your assumptions. Instead it just quells the spirit and enthusiasm members like Dr. Stogiefresh bring to this site.
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As far as I can tell, you are just a prejudiced MF, who hasn't lent anything of value to this site by your comment, here.
"Hi Kettle....I'm Pot".

First things first, I have 3 large humidors and a cabinet, seasoned all of them myself in far less than 10 days apiece. Seeme like a long time to me, and at a cost of $3.97 versus about 2 cents worth of distilled water in 2-3 days, I'll continue myself with my next humidor. I actually got some of the Boveda packs free with my cabinet, and I still have them, unused.

Ivory, you tell other people to chill, then call people "prejudiced MF"....and the two guys you call out have contributed far more to this community than you have. Anyone who has been on this site longer than 2 months I'm sure will agree with me.
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Take a chill pill daklugs (and this goes for that other guy, jgros or whatever too.)
I recommend you take 2 of those pills and call me in the morning.

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Did you not read the friggin' review - very informative.
Like hog says, you stick a shot glass of distilled water in the humidor for a couple of days until the humidity stabilizes and thats all. No need to buy any humidipaks from Boveda or anybody else and 3 weeks is a little long for simple humidification of the wood inside a humidor. Dr. Stogie thinks that his way is better then thats just fine by me. He wants to tell others about it, thats just fine by me. But if he has any relationship whatsoever with the company, including getting them at discount, he should have pointed this out up front. Now I know reviewing a product like this is not held to the same ethical standards as reviewing grants for NIH, but the same principle applies. I am certain that he was only trying to help others out with his post, as was Dave .... unlike your unrelentant torrent of unmitigated drivel.

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Do yourself a favor, and the rest of us too, and take a look at the information in an objective way, instead of spouting off about some illusionary moral dilemma, which appears to exist only in your head, based on the nature of the stated relationship between Dr. Stogiefresh and boveda.
The relationship was only disclosed after it was brought up by somebody else. There is a CLEAR conflict of interest when you promote something you get sell, you get free, or you get at a discount. That is not illusionary.

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Better yet, before that, review the product yourself and then give us your oh so enlightened view of things. You're just making an unfounded assumption about the personal character of Dr. Stogiefresh, as, from what I can tell, you know neither him nor the people at Boveda. What the hell do you know about the validity of the information; nothing, I'm going to venture.
I see you're progressing nicely in your class (how to look and act like a snide dick, 100). As a graduate of that class, I can only recommend furthering your education with the 200 class next semester as well.

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You would be well advised to heed your own advice.

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Please quit stifling reviewing members (at the risk of sounding hypocritical, I say this, as I am trying to stifle you.) As far as I can tell, you are just a prejudiced MF, who hasn't lent anything of value to this site by your comment, here.
Bringing up a point of COI on a review IS of value.

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If the truth of the information can stand alone, just let it be. We don't need your "every point of view" or complete transparency approach, which you seem to think is going to somehow change the information presented, based on your assumptions. Instead it just quells the spirit and enthusiasm members like Dr. Stogiefresh bring to this site.
God ... did I just read all the way through your tedious post? I think I deserve a reward. I'm smoking a Boli tonight on the way home.
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Take a chill pill daklugs (and this goes for that other guy, jgros or whatever too.)
Did you not read the friggin' review - very informative. Do yourself a favor, and the rest of us too, and take a look at the information in an objective way, instead of spouting off about some illusionary moral dilemma, which appears to exist only in your head, based on the nature of the stated relationship between Dr. Stogiefresh and boveda. Better yet, before that, review the product yourself and then give us your oh so enlightened view of things. You're just making an unfounded assumption about the personal character of Dr. Stogiefresh, as, from what I can tell, you know neither him nor the people at Boveda. What the hell do you know about the validity of the information; nothing, I'm going to venture. If you do know something of value, make a comment about it instead of something about which you know nothing. Please quit stifling reviewing members (at the risk of sounding hypocritical, I say this, as I am trying to stifle you.) As far as I can tell, you are just a prejudiced MF, who hasn't lent anything of value to this site by your comment, here. If the truth of the information can stand alone, just let it be. We don't need your "every point of view" or complete transparency approach, which you seem to think is going to somehow change the information presented, based on your assumptions. Instead it just quells the spirit and enthusiasm members like Dr. Stogiefresh bring to this site.
I think you might be making a mistake - maybe two mistakes - what you have to say and how you have to say it - It is certainly obvious to me that you have not spent much time here. And as far as "quells the spirit and enthuasiasm" - the antagonistic and mean spirited tone of your attack on the integrity of two well known members of the community does more damage that a simple, honest statement of personal opinion about a behavior - not a person - could ever do.

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Club Stogie and Top25 are one of the only sites on the internet where you can get non biased reviews and opinions. The reason for this; Paul has worked very hard and has been careful not to take any money from any manufactures. This keeps this site honest and creditable. When you bring in reviews of products that have $$$ behind them, regardless of how stongly you feel about a product, it tarneshes the integrity of this site.

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Take a chill pill daklugs (and this goes for that other guy, jgros or whatever too.)
Did you not read the friggin' review - very informative. Do yourself a favor, and the rest of us too, and take a look at the information in an objective way, instead of spouting off about some illusionary moral dilemma, which appears to exist only in your head, based on the nature of the stated relationship between Dr. Stogiefresh and boveda. Better yet, before that, review the product yourself and then give us your oh so enlightened view of things. You're just making an unfounded assumption about the personal character of Dr. Stogiefresh, as, from what I can tell, you know neither him nor the people at Boveda. What the hell do you know about the validity of the information; nothing, I'm going to venture. If you do know something of value, make a comment about it instead of something about which you know nothing. Please quit stifling reviewing members (at the risk of sounding hypocritical, I say this, as I am trying to stifle you.) As far as I can tell, you are just a prejudiced MF, who hasn't lent anything of value to this site by your comment, here. If the truth of the information can stand alone, just let it be. We don't need your "every point of view" or complete transparency approach, which you seem to think is going to somehow change the information presented, based on your assumptions. Instead it just quells the spirit and enthusiasm members like Dr. Stogiefresh bring to this site.
Wow! Try the decaf bro.

And yes I read the review. A question for you. Have you ever seasoned a humidor? Do you know the logic behind doing so and how people typically do it? What is missing is the alternatives and the "is this worth it vs. the basically free one"? The real question is did you read the review and understand the hidden funny? The LGC humi is a limited release humi that comes full of cigars. It’s quite nice. The cigars are not my thing but… If you don’t get the point here on why this might be a lil funny then … well I’m not going to explain it. (And I was nice enough not to point it out).

I expressed my opinion, in what I thought was as genial way I could. Interesting that on the day we celebrate MLK Jr's life that you bring up the word prejudice. I take offense in having the term used to describe me or my actions. If you knew me you would not have used that term to describe any part of my life. Call me an Ahole, call me almost anything else and it's cool. That ain't. If you cannot operate with a sense of decorum here then feel free to post elsewhere. I made no assumptions merely stated fact and opinion.

The Doc promotes his site here. That is a known fact. Thus far I have limited my comments on the subject. The links to Stogie fresh in his sig line would be cause for harassment on many sites. The site owner and mods are tolerant here of most things. I commented on this particular review because of the sponsor link on his site. Getting free stuff or discounts in exchange for reviewing products or services is fine for posting things on his site. It's his site. This is our site. Placing reviews that are purportedly objective in our forum when there has been a commercial or personal gain involved is in my opinion .... wrong without disclosure.

P.S. Doc. Sorry didn't mean to have this become such a big deal I like reading on your site.

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