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Old 12-03-2007, 08:46 PM   #46
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I have done this for a friend a while ago because i knew he liked scotch. He said he enjoyed them ( but i never tried them so i dont know if it did make a difference). I am in the process of doing coffee beans with a Macanudo gold label ( wanted something mild so the flavor would show up) i put a few beads in i took from a friend to keep the humidity right.

Also I am going to do it again with the scotch, with beads this time. Also going to try to maybe wet the beads with the scotch, but i dont know how it will work. Trying to get this down pat.

Isnt this how Drew Estate does their cigars?
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:01 PM   #47
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Hows this going?
My experiment kinda fizzled. The cigars ended up not really picking up much flavor once they dropped back down to normal humidity levels. Oh, well.
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:30 AM   #48
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My experiment kinda fizzled. The cigars ended up not really picking up much flavor once they dropped back down to normal humidity levels. Oh, well.
Just had a thought... It would take a bit of engineering, but one might try pumping all the air out of the canister before injecting the flavor infusion. This would vaporize it and definitely provide better infusion.

You'd have to have one of those gizmos that can pump air out of canisters and modify the canister with a seal of silicone or similar to allow for hypodermic injection without breaking the air seal. Who knows, maybe after development, you market the thing! I don't think I have enough interest to see to it, but thought I would post it and see if anyone else may wish to tinker with it.
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Old 12-10-2007, 12:09 PM   #49
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One of the shops that I was in down in Charleston does something very similar to what you did John. They use a cigar jar and fill the humidifier with Makers Mark and age them in it for a couple of months and then bring the humidity back down. They said that it's one of their best selling cigars. They smelled nice but I didn't buy one.
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there were a couple of boom cigars that were infused (Sublimado and Incomparable) they werwe ok considering the crap tobacco used during the time, but I found one in a shop that has ALOT of well aged cigars that no one seems to buy. the scotch flavor had kindof worn off after the 10 years it had been sitting there, it did become a slightly better cigar though.

If anyone is in Quakertown PA on the weekends check out Cigars unlimited in the Quakertown Farmers market, Diane (the owner) has many boxes of cigars there that have a massive amount of age on them. (Kaybee used to manage the store, and I worked there part time for a while.)
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Old 12-10-2007, 03:06 PM   #51
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Now I have to go get some espresso beans and try it. maybe some sambuka
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I say try this with some Fruit Punch and make some CAO flavours!
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Old 12-11-2007, 04:30 PM   #53
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I was doing this 12 or 14 years ago. Long before the new age "flavoured" cigars hit the market. After alot of work ,and alot of messed up cigars, here is what I found works best. First off think SLOW. I am also a firm believer that if you start with crappy cigars and crappy liquor you will end up with a crappy product. Nuff said. Find a cigar you like and make sure it is properly seasoned. Putting them in a seperate unflavored humidor with a hunidity level of 60 to 65% for a week or so will help speed up the infusion process and should eliminate splitting.

Prepare a seperate humidor and be sure it is properly seasoned. A inexpensive way is to use plasitc sealable containers. prep them as you would a temporary or overflow humidor. Cedar planks work great for the inside. Once ready dilute the beverage of choice by 50% with distilled water. Using it full strength produced a very strong infusion too fast. You can use an open shot glass but I found keeping the proper humidity level is hard. I used a new unscented spunge. Damp the sponge with the 50/50 mixture and place the sponge inside and monitor the humidity closely for the first several days. Once the humidity is constant, let them sit for several weeks and add more of the 50/50 mixture as needed. Try the cigars during the infusion process. There is no hard and fast rule. Taste is subjective. So when they are flavored to your liking remove the 50/50 sponge and replace with a regular distilled water device. The cedar will have absorbed much of the flavor and keep the cigars at a relatively constant level of infusion for as long as you need. If you leave the 50/50 solution in they will become over saturated and taste like garbage. In this case more is NOT better. Once finished do not place them back with the rest of your stock unless you want everything inside to have flavor also.

Kind of long winded but it took quite a bit of trial and error to figure it out. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Im reviving this!

My gf suggested that we make some kahlua cigars, as we both have a love for kahlua. Sure I could go and buy some, but making them is more fun. I will be making some coffee infused too. I have a bundle coming in the post this week, so by next weekend, I will have them in jars, absorbing the flavour!
We will b going to Gloria Jeans and picking out some nice aramatic beans. Mmmmm.

Will be posting pics for sure!

BTW, notices mansonic man is banned. What gives? Waddy do??
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Im reviving this!

My gf suggested that we make some kahlua cigars, as we both have a love for kahlua. Sure I could go and buy some, but making them is more fun. I will be making some coffee infused too. I have a bundle coming in the post this week, so by next weekend, I will have them in jars, absorbing the flavour!
We will b going to Gloria Jeans and picking out some nice aramatic beans. Mmmmm.

Will be posting pics for sure!

BTW, notices mansonic man is banned. What gives? Waddy do??
I did that with 12yr old h. upman cigars and whole espresso beans. I layered the beans and cigars. great morning smoke.
I liked the whole beans due to more oil..
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I have some in some chocolate port right now. Just waiting a couple more weeks.
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Haven't tried it, but it looks like a good idea.
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Old 06-11-2008, 03:09 PM   #58
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hmmm, not a bad idea.. I've had trouble finding the Makers Mark cigars since I left Kentucky... I have a buddy that only smokes those, they aren't half bad
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Well, on the 20th of this month, I put 6 cheap cigars from a bundle, in a glass jar, in my kitchen cupboard, with a shot glass of ground up "Irish Creme" infused beans. Not only does thiscoffee bean smell GREAT, it brews up nicely too. With a dash of Tia Maria its brilliant!

I opened the jar today, to remove the %humi device and the smell was brilliant! I will give them about 2 months, and try one. Then after total 5-6 months, Ill pull them out, and give them a try. Ill compair them to the ones I have just left in my humi to sit. For referance the cigar is the Value Line Dom #200 Corona. Not a flash cigar at all. Hopefully, this wont go too pair shaped due to an average cigar. Oh well. If it tuns out ok, Ill get a better bundle and re-do it.

Ill keep you all informed.

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im interested in how this turns out, keep us posted
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