Rocky Patel Seconds - Truly Mistakes ?

[slider9499]

We've all seen the RP seconds claiming to be real RP Vintage ciagrs with some slight imperfections. But my question is - If these are truly rejects due to the reasons that are mentioned by Rocky Patel himself and in the writings on the Cigar International site, then why don’t they have ANY resemblance at all of the original Vintage line?

In other words, if these are simple blemish or off-color marks that are making them Seconds then they should have the exact same shape as the Vintage 1990 and 1992. These are nothing at all in shape like the aforementioned. This would lead me to believe that they are not actually seconds per se but were actually made my RP on purpose.

Any thoughts or insight on this?

And also, has anyone ever tried them?

[screwbag]

I love th RP vintage...my seconds should be here anytime now!!! I can't wait to smoke 'em! All i hear is great things about the seconds...so I bought lots

[slider9499]

where did u buy them and how much did u pay?

[rlacapra1]

i've won several lots of seconds of both the '90 and '92 series at c-bid. so far all have smoked the same as the 'firsts' but at a fraction of the price.

[slider9499]

I personally like the '90 over the '92. My father-in-law is just the opposite. can you notice any difference in taste or construction of these ciagrs versus the real Vintage line?

[rlacapra1]

of the twenty or so seconds i have smoked so far, the only difference has been some very slight variations of color in the wrapper. the shape (box press) is the same, and they are shipped without a band. no peeling, splitting, draw problems, have been found at all so far. the flavor has been identical.

[slider9499]

excellent

Good to hear before I drop a few bucks on a bundle or two

where and how much did u pay?

[rlacapra1]

my best win at c-bid was 7.00 for a 5-pack

[jloutlaw]

The robustos are nearly indentical in appearance and taste. The toros are square boxed pressed, but the 92 seconds I bought didn't appear to be boxed pressed. It was the same blend as far as I could tell and was great.

[dbradley]

I've thought this too and wondered the same based on the RG of the 92 toro. It has a larger RG than the regular line and some have accounted this to the fact that box pressing changes the RG. That makes since, but if that's the case then why is the toro the only size that has a different RG than the regular line?

[RGD]

I smoke my fair share of Rocky Patel seconds. I normally always keep the Sun Grown seconds on hand.
Seconds can be defined in several ways - wrapper blemishes, off color - and, apprentice rollers. I think this is where the RG size difference may come in to play.
Rocky Patel (seconds) is one of the few brands that I would safely say will always match the firsts in flavor and construction.


Ron

[dawgs47]

i got my 1st ever shipment of 2nd in yesterday. 1992 vintage from CBID. i am very excited to try them after reading all the postive feedback from here!

[johnnybot3000]

Originally Posted by slider9499

where did u buy them and how much did u pay?

I bought mine on cbid: RP Vintage Seconds 1992 Churchill - 15 Cigars for $37.

[Woogie]

My buddy bought some a while back and hasn't had any problems. He thinks they are very tasty. He got 5 Chuchills off the Devil Site. I don't know how much he paid.

Woogie

[ccl2087]

personally i don't care if they look different, i'm glad to hear people think they taste the same. i'll have to pick up a five pack myself