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Old 10-07-2007, 05:45 AM   #1
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Anybody else drink Mountain Dew?

This makes me question if I'll ever do the dew again.
http://break.com/index/how-to-make-g...ntain-dew.html
I'll be trying it tomorrow, and I'll report back with my findings...
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That's awesome!!
Would it still be okay to drink after?
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:04 AM   #3
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Re: Anybody else drink Mountain Dew?

No, do not drink..read the bottle of hydrogen peroxide..
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Re: Anybody else drink Mountain Dew?

That makes me never want to drink Dew again.
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Re: Anybody else drink Mountain Dew?

ever left a egg over night in a glass of cola?? makes you think "what are taking in our bodies"
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Re: Anybody else drink Mountain Dew?

Exactly why I stopped drinking soda years ago. I drink maybe 10-12 glass of soda a year. Mainly when im out eating, or there is just nothing else to drink. I try to limit it though seriously bad for ya.
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ever left a egg over night in a glass of cola?? makes you think "what are taking in our bodies"
Acid in cola coagulates egg proteins. Your stomach has acid, if you drink cola you add a bit more. This shouldn't worry you too much.

Regarding the Mountain Dew experiment in the video, I'm willing to bet that it is a hoax. Chemiluminescence requires a source of chemical energy and a fluorescent compound. In light sticks, there is a source of chemical energy (hydrogen peroxide), a reactive compound (phenyl oxylate ester, bistrichloropenyl oxylate BCTO) and the fluorescent dye. The fluorescent compounds in lightsticks are polyaromatic hydrocarbons: bis(phenylethynyl)anthracene produces green light, Rhodamine 6G produces red light.

There would have to be similar compounds in mountain dew to act as fluorescent dye and a reactive compound (or a dye that reacts directly with the dye, but there are reasons that they run the reaction as they do in light sticks).

Tartrazine (yellow no. 5) IS fluorescent, so two of the three things appear to be present for glow in the dark mountain dew (after they added the peroxide). Now, the chemistry of light sticks involves the peroxide reacting with the BCTO, producing a cyclic peroxy compound, that decomposes to CO2 with energy release to the fluorescent dye.

Baking soda releases CO2 on acidification, but this release of CO2 is not similar to the breakdown of a high energy cyclic peroxide to CO2 that causes the activation of the dye in light sticks. Release of CO2 from H2CO3 does not have enough energy.

Seems to me these kids read the instructions on how to make a light stick, realized that mountain dew contained a fluorescent dye, then tried it and realized it wouldn't work.

So they faked this, one way or another. Possibly the baking soda was the BCTO activator. Or possibly things were switched when the bottle was off camera.

Or, I could be wrong.
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Acid in cola coagulates egg proteins. Your stomach has acid, if you drink cola you add a bit more. This shouldn't worry you too much.

Regarding the Mountain Dew experiment in the video, I'm willing to bet that it is a hoax. Chemiluminescence requires a source of chemical energy and a fluorescent compound. In light sticks, there is a source of chemical energy (hydrogen peroxide), a reactive compound (phenyl oxylate ester, bistrichloropenyl oxylate BCTO) and the fluorescent dye. The fluorescent compounds in lightsticks are polyaromatic hydrocarbons: bis(phenylethynyl)anthracene produces green light, Rhodamine 6G produces red light.

There would have to be similar compounds in mountain dew to act as fluorescent dye and a reactive compound (or a dye that reacts directly with the dye, but there are reasons that they run the reaction as they do in light sticks).

Tartrazine (yellow no. 5) IS fluorescent, so two of the three things appear to be present for glow in the dark mountain dew (after they added the peroxide). Now, the chemistry of light sticks involves the peroxide reacting with the BCTO, producing a cyclic peroxy compound, that decomposes to CO2 with energy release to the fluorescent dye.

Baking soda releases CO2 on acidification, but this release of CO2 is not similar to the breakdown of a high energy cyclic peroxide to CO2 that causes the activation of the dye in light sticks. Release of CO2 from H2CO3 does not have enough energy.

Seems to me these kids read the instructions on how to make a light stick, realized that mountain dew contained a fluorescent dye, then tried it and realized it wouldn't work.

So they faked this, one way or another. Possibly the baking soda was the BCTO activator. Or possibly things were switched when the bottle was off camera.

Or, I could be wrong.
Yeah, Myth Busters did something similar. I do want to try this out though!
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Acid in cola coagulates egg proteins. Your stomach has acid, if you drink cola you add a bit more. This shouldn't worry you too much.

Regarding the Mountain Dew experiment in the video, I'm willing to bet that it is a hoax. Chemiluminescence requires a source of chemical energy and a fluorescent compound. In light sticks, there is a source of chemical energy (hydrogen peroxide), a reactive compound (phenyl oxylate ester, bistrichloropenyl oxylate BCTO) and the fluorescent dye. The fluorescent compounds in lightsticks are polyaromatic hydrocarbons: bis(phenylethynyl)anthracene produces green light, Rhodamine 6G produces red light.

There would have to be similar compounds in mountain dew to act as fluorescent dye and a reactive compound (or a dye that reacts directly with the dye, but there are reasons that they run the reaction as they do in light sticks).

Tartrazine (yellow no. 5) IS fluorescent, so two of the three things appear to be present for glow in the dark mountain dew (after they added the peroxide). Now, the chemistry of light sticks involves the peroxide reacting with the BCTO, producing a cyclic peroxy compound, that decomposes to CO2 with energy release to the fluorescent dye.

Baking soda releases CO2 on acidification, but this release of CO2 is not similar to the breakdown of a high energy cyclic peroxide to CO2 that causes the activation of the dye in light sticks. Release of CO2 from H2CO3 does not have enough energy.

Seems to me these kids read the instructions on how to make a light stick, realized that mountain dew contained a fluorescent dye, then tried it and realized it wouldn't work.

So they faked this, one way or another. Possibly the baking soda was the BCTO activator. Or possibly things were switched when the bottle was off camera.

Or, I could be wrong.
bill nye the science guy is that you??

thanks for chemistry lesson..
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Great. There's another thing I can't enjoy in life now!
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Acid in cola coagulates egg proteins. Your stomach has acid, if you drink cola you add a bit more. This shouldn't worry you too much.

Regarding the Mountain Dew experiment in the video, I'm willing to bet that it is a hoax. Chemiluminescence requires a source of chemical energy and a fluorescent compound. In light sticks, there is a source of chemical energy (hydrogen peroxide), a reactive compound (phenyl oxylate ester, bistrichloropenyl oxylate BCTO) and the fluorescent dye. The fluorescent compounds in lightsticks are polyaromatic hydrocarbons: bis(phenylethynyl)anthracene produces green light, Rhodamine 6G produces red light.

There would have to be similar compounds in mountain dew to act as fluorescent dye and a reactive compound (or a dye that reacts directly with the dye, but there are reasons that they run the reaction as they do in light sticks).

Tartrazine (yellow no. 5) IS fluorescent, so two of the three things appear to be present for glow in the dark mountain dew (after they added the peroxide). Now, the chemistry of light sticks involves the peroxide reacting with the BCTO, producing a cyclic peroxy compound, that decomposes to CO2 with energy release to the fluorescent dye.

Baking soda releases CO2 on acidification, but this release of CO2 is not similar to the breakdown of a high energy cyclic peroxide to CO2 that causes the activation of the dye in light sticks. Release of CO2 from H2CO3 does not have enough energy.

Seems to me these kids read the instructions on how to make a light stick, realized that mountain dew contained a fluorescent dye, then tried it and realized it wouldn't work.

So they faked this, one way or another. Possibly the baking soda was the BCTO activator. Or possibly things were switched when the bottle was off camera.

Or, I could be wrong.
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Acid in cola coagulates egg proteins. Your stomach has acid, if you drink cola you add a bit more. This shouldn't worry you too much.
Or, I could be wrong.
Coagulation refers only to a process by which blood forms clots with platelets and fibrin. It's the phosphoric acid in the cola that degrades the integrity of the shell of the egg because it contains calcium. Essentially this is what is happening to your bones and your teeth. Mountain Dew on the other hand is actually safer in the long run than cola because it contains citric acid as opposed to phosphoric.


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Coagulation refers only to a process by which blood forms clots with platelets and fibrin. It's the phosphoric acid in the cola that degrades the integrity of the shell of the egg because it contains calcium. Essentially this is what is happening to your bones and your teeth. Mountain Dew on the other hand is actually safer in the long run than cola because it contains citric acid as opposed to phosphoric.


Certainly, in the medical field they talk about blood clotting and the cascade of events involved in that when they describe as coagulation. Nonetheless, coagulation is often used as a word to describe denaturation of proteins in other fields. I refer you to:

http://www.math.unl.edu/~jump/Center...oagulation.pdf
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4333871.html
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi....x?cookieSet=1

I'd provide better references but one of my students who is working on protein functionality in eggs borrowed them all.

I would agree that use of coagulation in senses other than fibrin and friends is somewhat confusing, nonetheless, in common usage (in non medical fields) coagulation refers to protein denaturation.

You are right that the calcium is removed from the shell via acid. I was thinking he meant putting the cracked egg in the soda and watching it coagulate ;-). We use the same process to remove minerals from shells of shrimp when we want to extract the chitin or using dilute acids to solubilize minerals when using AA.

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I drank the mountian dew, Now I don't feel good and my pee is glowing in the dark. Great for late nite pee's. You don't have to turn on the lights. LOL
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Re: Anybody else drink Mountain Dew?

Well, the first try yielded absolutely nothing other than fizzy dew. I'll be trying again in a bit here with different quantities. Hopefully this'll work!
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