Best $25 Red Wine--Trust Me!!

[jagmqt]

Originally Posted by Papichulo

I dound it for $23.99 here. It is actually at the bottom of the "other reds" website page.

http://www.estatewinesintl.com/fullcellar.htm

I drive right by that city when I go to visit my family...when the semester is over and I go to visit, I'll stop in and snag some...

Thanks for the heads up...I alwasy like a good red and am open to try new ones...

jag

[Papichulo]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

That is all it is worth in my book. Vive la République!

Price to quality is not linear. When Robert Parker gives 90 points to a $15 wine, that is not the same when he gives it to a $200 wine. Each wine is judged in perspective of what it is. My bar for 1st growth is much different than what it would be a Village or brokered wine.

I have been fortunate enough to have had plenty of first growth and exclusive wines, and let's not get carried away saying some $20 wine is better than Petrus. Sure, there are some lackluster vintages, and storage may be suspect on older bottles, but there is something to higher end bottles that the cheaper stuff can't achieve.

Is any JR as good as an Opus X or Trinidad? Not if you have smoked plenty of each...

I will try Sogrape Douro Reserva 2000. I never pointed out specific higher end/vintage wines would be spanked my Hollywood Red. I too have been fortunate and have experienced more wines then your average person. JR and Opus don't do it for me. I rather have a PAM 26 #35. I am not wining, I mean whining just making a point. For the record I have read many of your responses to threads like this one and I agree with you about 98% of the time. Cheers

[Tredegar]

Try Armida wines. They have some wonderful reds and consistently win awards at tastings.

http://www.armida.com

[partagaspete]

I would love to try it but I cna get some great wines at the B/X for around $20.

I just had a 2005 Chateunuef Du Pape (sp?) the other day that was incredible.

I had a wonderful Italian red (not sure the name or type since I am not an Italian wine fan) the other day.

right now I am enjoying a good (not as good as the other two) Casa Girella Syrah from Sicilia, Italia.

I know, I know I do spoil myself sometimes...

T

[bobarian]

Originally Posted by partagaspete

I would love to try it but I cna get some great wines at the B/X for around $20.

I just had a 2005 Chateunuef Du Pape (sp?) the other day that was incredible.

I know, I know I do spoil myself sometimes...

T

Wow, Thats a crazy good price on a Bordeaux! Why drink anything else?

There are tons of good $25 bottles out there from Italy, Spain, France and the US. Oregon Pinot's from 05-06 are drinking great atm. But its getting hard to find Napa Cab's in this range.

[smokinpoke]

Had a Clous du Bois pinot noir that was dynamite. about $15-20

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by Papichulo

I will try Sogrape Douro Reserva 2000.

For the record I have read many of your responses to threads like this one and I agree with you about 98% of the time. Cheers

You'll love this wine. Can breathe for hours too.

[smokinpoke]

Originally Posted by smokinpoke

Had a Clous du Bois pinot noir that was dynamite. about $15-20

Tried the same brand but the Red Zin last night with a big steak dinner and was not impressed. Don't get me wrong I drank it but it was not something I would buy on a regular basis.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by smokinpoke

Had a Clous du Bois pinot noir that was dynamite. about $15-20

It cost that much? Clos du Bois should be around $10-12 for a generic pinot. The Jadot Pinot 2005 is good for around $10, and for a little more I like the Nicolas Potel Pinot. As for Burgundy negotiants, Joseph Drouhin has a good wine at all price points.

I am a big bin end shopper and find great deals all the time. Save the soiled label wines for me!!

[Tredegar]

I have found that most heavier reds; cabs, merlots and zins need sit 5-10 years before they reach their full flavor. If you get them too young then they just don't taste as good. Pinot Noirs, on the other hand, can be drunk while fairly young.

[Mark C]

Originally Posted by Tredegar

I have found that most heavier reds; cabs, merlots and zins need sit 5-10 years before they reach their full flavor. If you get them too young then they just don't taste as good. Pinot Noirs, on the other hand, can be drunk while fairly young.

Depends on the winery/vintage. There are some tricks a winemaker can play to make a full-bodied cab that's drinkable young. The biggest difference I've found is oak/steel aging. Oak-aged wines seem to need longer rest, especially new oak.

[Papichulo]

Originally Posted by Mark C

Depends on the winery/vintage. There are some tricks a winemaker can play to make a full-bodied cab that's drinkable young. The biggest difference I've found is oak/steel aging. Oak-aged wines seem to need longer rest, especially new oak.

I want to learn more about this...