Port Wine

[MoTheMan]

Thanks to everyone's help I decided on a bottle of Graham's 20 y.o. Tawny Port that we opened as we were finishing some Partagas Serie P No.2. It sure capped a really wonderful Tanksgiving dinner along with some most excellent company.

Thanks again.

[vic_c]

Originally Posted by rdcross

Damn...now you guys have me wanting to go back and get more....

I've also checked online, and $80 appears to be a good price for 94 Grahams.

OK - question here. With wine, if I have a bottle I like, I'll go back for a case or half-case without thinking twice. For vintage port, which is new for me, what do you do? At $80 per bottle, buying a case isn't feasible...at least not very frequently.

What do you guys do? Buy a couple bottles of something you like? Or go all th eway and splurge on 6 or 12? Remember...I have other hobbies to pay for!

I personally buy by the case or split a case with a friend, but it is not always necessary to buy 12 bottles ...also especially in more recent years port is available in 6 or 12 bottle wood cases. You should buy what you can afford if you can't afford the case buy singles. The problem is the US dollar is very weak now and buying port futures is the same as buying a ready to drink vintage port. You should also make sure you can store the case (55-63 degrees) unless you plan on drinking the whole thing within a few months.
I don't know if you saw my other two posts but just in case here are the links
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[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by MoTheMan

Thanks to everyone's help I decided on a bottle of Graham's 20 y.o. Tawny Port that we opened as we were finishing some Partagas Serie P No.2. It sure capped a really wonderful Tanksgiving dinner along with some most excellent company.

Thanks again.

Graham 20 year is not that common, how was it? Have you had any other 20's you can compare it to?

[joed]

Good port wine - should mean a vintage port - the names you were given earlier are the ones to look at - Dow, Grahamm's and Fonseca

The thing is - a vintage port isn't ready until it's at least 20 years old - that could easily make the price over $100. You could reasonably expect to pay $125 or more for a good, aged vintage port wine. It should have been stored well and not moved around very much - there will be a lot of sediment in a bottle of good port - and too much moving around will bruise the wine.

I know it's a lot for a bottle of wine - but it's not for everyday drinking and not for drinking a lot.

A good port - with a good ISOM - is a combination that you won't soon forget.

The twany ports - they are all pretty much the same and nothing like a vintage port. Sweet - strong wine - grab one based on price. Taylor is usually priced to be a value buy.

[Navydoc]

Originally Posted by joed

Good port wine - should mean a vintage port - the names you were given earlier are the ones to look at - Dow, Grahamm's and Fonseca

The thing is - a vintage port isn't ready until it's at least 20 years old - that could easily make the price over $100. You could reasonably expect to pay $125 or more for a good, aged vintage port wine. It should have been stored well and not moved around very much - there will be a lot of sediment in a bottle of good port - and too much moving around will bruise the wine.

I know it's a lot for a bottle of wine - but it's not for everyday drinking and not for drinking a lot.

A good port - with a good ISOM - is a combination that you won't soon forget.

The twany ports - they are all pretty much the same and nothing like a vintage port. Sweet - strong wine - grab one based on price. Taylor is usually priced to be a value buy.

LBV's are one of the best values IMHO (about $20)...Check out the Quinto DoNoval, Taylor, Fonseca. 97's Rock and the 2000's are due soon. The 40 and 50yr old Tawneys are sublime also.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by joed

Good port wine - should mean a vintage port - the names you were given earlier are the ones to look at - Dow, Grahamm's and Fonseca

The thing is - a vintage port isn't ready until it's at least 20 years old - that could easily make the price over $100. You could reasonably expect to pay $125 or more for a good, aged vintage port wine.

20 years ago is just 1985 and there's plenty of 83's and 77's for $100.00 or less. Sure, Taylor and Fonseca are going to command top dollar, but I was buying '83 Grahams for $58.00 and 77 Dow's for $90. I just bought a 77 Graham for $75.00 too.

I don't think it's fair to compare buying a $100.00 bottle of port vs. a $100 bottle of wine. As much as I love wine, one could polish off a bottle of wine in 20 minutes, where the port is more of an event and I think a much better value to spend money on. I'd put port with sauternes, in that your money goes a long way, as well as memory of the bottle.

[Neuromancer]

Vintage Port Site

[joed]

Originally Posted by Neuromancer

Vintage Port Site

You found a great site here!!

This is a cool site with a lot of great info if you are interested in finding out about Vintage Port Wine.

Like I said before - a good bottle of vintage port wine and a "special cigar" can create a truly memorable experience.

[ATLHARP]

Originally Posted by Neuromancer

Vintage Port Site

I have learned tons from the vintage port site, another great resource for maximum pleasure!

ATL

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by Neuromancer

Vintage Port Site

Mark,
Great website.
This could be dangerous.

[cmiller]

I remember having a bottle of port in the wine rack at home and just had the wife on the phone so I had her refresh my memory:

Warre's Vintage Port, 1985, product of Portugal

any thoughts? I don't even remember how or when I acquired it.

[Blueface]

Originally Posted by cmiller

I remember having a bottle of port in the wine rack at home and just had the wife on the phone so I had her refresh my memory:

Warre's Vintage Port, 1985, product of Portugal

any thoughts? I don't even remember how or when I acquired it.

Bad year.
I would not dare try opening that.
Can you send it to me as I have a lab that can properly open, analyze and discard the contents?

[Ron1YY]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Bad year.
I would not dare try opening that.
Can you send it to me as I have a lab that can properly open, analyze and discard the contents?

Yes, he really does. And we fondly call the lab TW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He will have his team analyze it on the 10th. It will be run through all of the diagnostics and then we will bring it to a round table discussion over some shots of Tequila...Opps I mean Milk

Ron

[ATLHARP]

Originally Posted by Ron1YY

Yes, he really does. And we fondly call the lab TW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He will have his team analyze it on the 10th. It will be run through all of the diagnostics and then we will bring it to a round table discussion over some shots of Tequila...Opps I mean Milk

Ron

Actually just send it to me and I will let you know the base mean structure and tannin dynamic output. You see I am the only one on the board that can do this........actually I just want dig in to the Warre's! That's a great bottle of Port, crack that one open and get some fine chocolate for the wife. That way you can have your cigars and get laid later on!
See always thinking!


ATL

[ATLHARP]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

As much as I love wine, one could polish off a bottle of wine in 20 minutes, where the port is more of an event and I think a much better value to spend money on. I'd put port with sauternes, in that your money goes a long way, as well as memory of the bottle.

Totally agree,

I like Port mainly because it's not something to be consumed on a massive quantity, but something which is savored with each sip. I view cigars the same way........well at least the ones that don't suck.

ATL