Port Wine

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by ATLHARP

Totally agree,

I like Port mainly because it's not something to be consumed on a massive quantity, but something which is savored with each sip. I view cigars the same way........well at least the ones that don't suck.

ATL

Two people should be able to split a bottle in sitting no problem; maybe in an hour or so?

Last winter a friend and I polished of a Taylor '67, Dow '70, and a bottle of wine from Margaux within 2 good size cigars. It was snowing out, smoking Habanos.... The port caught up to me in a bad way when we got a cigar bar... The most gluttonous ill stomach I've ever had...

[MoTheMan]

Yeah, my local wine shop, Hi-Time Wine Cellar has Graham's, Taylor's, Neipoort, and Dow's in 20 y.o. Tawny.

I've found quite a few diferent makes of 1983 & 1985 Vintage Ports out there still available; never mind the 1977's and ones from the 60's. Fonseca 1983 for $60 and Fonseca 1085 for $75 can be had.

Well, thanks to everyone here my education of port has been accelerated considerable. Just over the past week alone I've spent nearly $400 on various Vintage/LBV/Colheita/Tawny/& Australian ("Port"). So far I like the Tawny the best. Enjoyed the Taylor and had a decent Fonseca at the Casa Fuente in Vegas. IMO, the Graham's was good, but didn't like it as much as I did the other two.

Been finding quite a few half bottles around, not only are they more easily affordable but I figure there's be less wasted.

[cmiller]

Originally Posted by ATLHARP

Actually just send it to me and I will let you know the base mean structure and tannin dynamic output. You see I am the only one on the board that can do this........actually I just want dig in to the Warre's! That's a great bottle of Port, crack that one open and get some fine chocolate for the wife. That way you can have your cigars and get laid later on!
See always thinking!


ATL

Think I'll go with the last part of this

So out of curiousity, if one were to buy a port today with the intent of letting it set in the wine rack for 10 years what more receint vintages look promissing for a decade down the road?

Edit:

Maybe this answers my own question. When I go to the vintage port site mentioned above without my popup blocker turned on I get a popup that says simply

Port Houses declare 2003 Vintage
The first widely declared vintage since 2000

so I guess in the 15-17 year horizon it might be good to buy these two vintages (2000 and 2003) now?

Edit again:

Looking at the vintage chart at the vintage port site it says the 85 could be drunk now but will improve some more with a few more years. So should I wait another 3-5 years, or get my wifes favorite chocolates for Christmas?

[Neuromancer]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Mark,
Great website.
This could be dangerous.

Yeah, I know...another freakin' slope...

[vic_c]

Originally Posted by cmiller

I remember having a bottle of port in the wine rack at home and just had the wife on the phone so I had her refresh my memory:

Warre's Vintage Port, 1985, product of Portugal

any thoughts? I don't even remember how or when I acquired it.

It's good (if it was stored properly) and can be opened now!

Here's the results from Wine Spectator:

winery: Warre

Score: 91

Wine: Vintage Port 1985
Price: $NA
Country: Portugal
Region: Portugal
Issue: Web Only (1989)
There is plenty of grip and backbone here. Deep purple, with concentrated grape and violet aromas, full-bodied, with huge grapy flavors, excellent backbone and a long finish

[vic_c]

Originally Posted by MoTheMan

Yeah, my local wine shop, Hi-Time Wine Cellar has Graham's, Taylor's, Neipoort, and Dow's in 20 y.o. Tawny.

I've found quite a few diferent makes of 1983 & 1985 Vintage Ports out there still available; never mind the 1977's and ones from the 60's. Fonseca 1983 for $60 and Fonseca 1085 for $75 can be had.

$60 is a VERY good price ....I'll take a case! it's not listed on their site!

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by MoTheMan

Yeah, my local wine shop, Hi-Time Wine Cellar has Graham's, Taylor's, Neipoort, and Dow's in 20 y.o. Tawny.

I've found quite a few diferent makes of 1983 & 1985 Vintage Ports out there still available; never mind the 1977's and ones from the 60's. Fonseca 1983 for $60 and Fonseca 1085 for $75 can be had.

They have some good prices. I am waiting for them to open up and see what I can get shipped to me; I'll cases- going, going, gone.... You better get down there quick before the hawks swoop down and clean that place out.

[Neuromancer]

I just bought a bottle of the Taylor Fladgate Vintage 2003 and couldn't stop myself from getting into it...it was great, and I am sure it will be even greater with a little age on it...

[Ron1YY]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

I just bought a bottle of Fonseca Port that was given out a Prince Charles and Lady Diana's wedding. Not sure what the year of the contents are, but I think they're 1977, as 1981 is the wedding, and the vintage would have to be previous to this. I'll have to do some research. Either way, I know it's worth more than I paid, which wasn't much for any port. Just as a comemorative, I think it has value. People just love the royals. Bottle says "Vintage Character", for what that is worth?

I am hoping this will be worth some bucks in about 20 years. Odd size bottle to with 70 cl.

Ok, Finally got a response back from the Fonseca company. Apparently this is an extremely rare bottle as per the reply I received back from them.

Dear Mr. Ron,

Could you please give us a detailed description of the label or, if possible, send us a digital image of the bottle.

Thank you
Cristina XXXXXXXX

I am going to send them the pics you have posted and see what they can find out for you. I'll post the info as I get it.

Ron

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by Ron1YY

Ok, Finally got a response back from the Fonseca company. Apparently this is an extremely rare bottle as per the reply I received back from them.

Dear Mr. Ron,

Could you please give us a detailed description of the label or, if possible, send us a digital image of the bottle.

Thank you
Cristina XXXXXXXX

I am going to send them the pics you have posted and see what they can find out for you. I'll post the info as I get it.

Ron

Ron,
Cool, I can't wait to find out, this is a big help, and a bit of drama!

-Moses

[Ron1YY]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Ron,
Cool, I can't wait to find out, this is a big help, and a bit of drama!

-Moses

Here is the latest on this. I'll need some help here Moses to get the answer to this Mystery.

Dear Ron,

Unfortunately the images are too small and we can not read the label
correctly.

You can either write the words that are on the label or take a larger
picture.

I have found no information on this port being produced by ourselves, but we
can be wrong.

I await your reply.

Kind regards
Cristina

Ron

[CrackerJacket]

Just picked up a 10 year old Fonseca for my father-in-law's Christmas present.
I get him a bottle of "something" every year. Last year was Balvenie single
malt.

[mosesbotbol]

Originally Posted by Ron1YY

Here is the latest on this. I'll need some help here Moses to get the answer to this Mystery.

Dear Ron,

Unfortunately the images are too small and we can not read the label
correctly.

You can either write the words that are on the label or take a larger
picture.

I have found no information on this port being produced by ourselves, but we
can be wrong.

I await your reply.

Kind regards
Cristina

Ron

*** Here's the exact printing on the front & back labels ***

Front:

In celebration of the
ROYAL WEDDING
Vintage Character
PORT

A tribute specially selected, shipped and
Bottled by Eldridge, Pope on the occasion
of the Wedding of HRH The Prince of Wales
and Lady Diana Spencer.

SHIPPED FROM FONSECA (OPORTO)
by ELDRIDGE, POPE – WINE MERCHANTS – Dorchester – Dorset

70cl PRODUCE OF PORTUGAL


Back:

This celebration Port, fined with egg white,
Has been aged in wood and is ready to be
enjoyed now. It will also benefit from
being kept for several years and will
continue to improve.

[Lumpold]

Well, they might have been nothing special, but I got a 20cl decanter with porto fino, and a 75cl bottle of Cockburns Fine Ruby for Xmas... good show.

[Alpedhuez55]

Originally Posted by mosesbotbol

Went to Trader Joes today and picked out a port that I am quite pleased with for the price!

Porto Morgado 10 Years Old Tawny.

Reminds of Taylor slightly, lighter cherry taste with a good body and the alocohol is present but not rough.

Best part of all, the price: $10.99

If you want to drink port all the time, this is the stuff. On the bottom end of pricing, you're not going to find any 10 year tawny for this price, and stuff is pretty good.

Thanks for the tip!!!

What Trader Joes are you going to? I just got a gift card to them. The ones in Arlington & Burlington do not sell alcohol? Is that the Cambridge Store?