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Old 01-08-2009, 07:15 AM   #16
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Many good advices here! Thank you for all the feedback
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Old 01-08-2009, 08:03 AM   #17
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Cognac Pierre Ferrand, they have been making this since 1702 and is made in France where all good wines and cognacs are made. Not saying that the above are not good cognacs, but this one blows my dress up! Way Up!
Agreed!

BTW Cognac is a town in France (as is Armagnac) the spirit in question is called brandy if its not made in one of those towns! Both places are totally worth a visit if you happen to be wandering around the vineyards of western France! As is the wonderful town of Saint-Emilion; I got totally wasted on the wine samplers I was forced to drink there
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Agreed!

BTW Cognac is a town in France (as is Armagnac)
This may be correct (cities), but I'm more familiar with Cognac & Armagnac referred to as "regions" or communities... or districts of France as opposed specific cities.

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the spirit in question is called brandy if its not made in one of those towns!
If true, someone better notify the good folks in the Normandy production area. Seems they've been getting away with not settling for their produce being simplified in title as "brandy".
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This may be correct (cities), but I'm more familiar with Cognac & Armagnac referred to as "regions" or communities... or districts of France as opposed specific cities.

If true, someone better notify the good folks in the Normandy production area. Seems they've been getting away with not settling for their produce being simplified in title as "brandy".
I didn't intend to start an off topic debate, so, erm... apologies!
Suffice to say the region(s) are where the grapes are grown... some make it to the extended towns/cities of Cognac and Armagnac for the creation of their unique brandies; and yes, someone has notified the Normandy production - EU legislators!
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Agreed!

BTW Cognac is a town in France (as is Armagnac) the spirit in question is called brandy if its not made in one of those towns!
JMHO. Sometimes a regular ole' water color brush is more practical than a paint roller. Example: Your description above leaves the regional brandy term, "Calvados" where?

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and yes, someone has notified the Normandy production - EU legislators!
With respect to the mentioned regional term Calvados defying the qualifications of being either from Cognac or Armagnac (otherwise just Brandy), what exactly did the "EU legislators" rule & enforce?

Do tell.
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I thought Calvados had to be made from apple juice exclusively?
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I thought Calvados had to be made from apple juice exclusively?
I could be wrong, but I think brandy made from pears may be categorized as "Calvados" as well, so long as produced with-in region.
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Calvados Calvados is an apple brandy from the French région of Basse-Normandie or Lower Normandy.

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ine%3ACalvados
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mosesbotbol = EU legislator?

It never ceases to amaze me - the whole paint brush vs. paint roller analogy was obviously futile. I chose to ignore this before, but let's keep it accurate...
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False. "Exclusively", best describes the said thought or comment.

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Calvados Calvados is an apple brandy from the French région of Basse-Normandie or Lower Normandy.

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ine%3ACalvados
Indeed it is. May I suggest using the same search engine to verify that Calvados is "exclusively" applied to apple brandy production? Surely you at least tried typing the combination of words "Calvados" & "Pear" in the search box before handing me my arse???

Doing so on google, I came across this quote with in the first page (of the first 10 shown pages filled with links):

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This means there are three types of Calvados, and the three AOC labels "describe" three distinct areas and three distinct traditions. "Calvados Pays d'Auge" originates in clayey limestone soils is the result of a double distillation. "Calvados Domfrontais" originates in granite soils that are damper and abound in pear trees. In the Domfront region these pear trees, often several centuries old, are as numerous as apple trees, which explains why brandy pears are present in larger quantities in the ciders destined for distilling - there is a minimum of 30% brandy pears in the must. "Calvados Domfrontais" is obtained by one distillation, using a patent still.
llatsni is right. We are drifting off the original course the ship was sailing. But, I wish to make clear, I'm only an outspoken passenger of the vessel. If you guys are going to educate us, please make the effort to check & present factual contents.

Beyond the obvious, the only thought that comes to mind is to inquire what type of toast one wants with that?

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mosesbotbol = EU legislator?

Indeed it is. May I suggest using the same search engine to verify that Calvados is "exclusively" applied to apple brandy production? Surely you at least tried typing the combination of words "Calvados" & "Pear" in the search box before handing me my arse???
Not trying to hand you your arse or rain on your parade...

Yes, I stand corrected, and gladfully so. It is important to learn, and now we all know that Calvados can be either apple or pear.
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