Gov. Schwarzenegger banned from Sacramento cigar shop

[Soprano3695]

Originally Posted by NorcalMark

Hey guys,

I want to thank you for the kind words. My father started this small b&m 41 years ago. My aunt worked at the store. My grandfather worked in the store.
I grew up in and around the store. I have worked for my father for close to 16 years.


I never intended or dreamed of getting rich doing what I do. I do it for the love of the leaf. And it keeps me close to my father who still works with me at the store. We still do things the old fashion way. We still make deals with a hand shake not a contract and a lawyer. Because you are only as good as your word. If the deal smells, we get rid of it.

My sign was my way of protesting something I didn't and still don't think is right. I never intended for this to make the paper let alone the news. I don't
seek the limelight or wish to be famous. Although I'd like to see that Katherine Heigl chick up close and personal. LOL

I do what I do for the love of the industry. Not to get rich, but to take care of my family, live a comfortable life. I wake up everyday wondering what is next. I just found out yesterday that another group has filed an initiative to raise the tobacco tax on cigars and cigarettes. This is shortly after the house speakers plan failed.

IT NEVER ENDS.

Again thank you for the kind words. Keep up the fight in your own states, because if you think it won't happen to you or in your state, you are sadly mistaken.

Mark Just
Owner/President
Tower Pipes & Cigars.

Take a pic of the sign and post it on here.

[Hammerhead]

Originally Posted by NorcalMark

...Keep up the fight in your own states, because if you think it won't happen to you or in your state, you are sadly mistaken.

Exactly my point when we talk about our 2nd Amendment rights. You cannot pick and choose what rights you want to preserve for yourself while electing politicians who transgress against the rights of others. But don't stop at the border of your state. What happens out there affects you at home. Precedents set in one state can bugger us as a nation. Look at the law that banned incandescent lights in Cali, now it's a federal thing.

Give up no ground. Support your freedoms, and those of others. That's why I proposed a 'buycott'.

"We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately."
- Benjamin Franklin

"To get freedom for yourself, you must give freedom to your neighbor, even if you sometimes don't like what he does with it."
- Me.

[yamaha6000]

(Kinda off topic) I found a good website thats fighting the ban in Wisconsin with some neat pictures to use. www.banthebanwisconsin.com I'm sure there are others for other states as well.

[Cozy]

Mark is Da man. I am in for a Buycott.

[Tour De Cigar]

Originally Posted by dustingaunder

Admittance is Terminated !!!


DG

lol... nice.. atleast somebody is standing up to this tax business.. but lets face the facts its gonna take more than 1 B&M for any changes and all the gov. is gonna do is go to another cigar shop and purchase....

[woops]

I called earlier tonight to voice my support, I believe I spoke to your father. Nice guy!

I applaud you, Mark!

[Tour De Cigar]

Originally Posted by Even Steven

This whole thing must have been embarrassing for him. He went in there probably with a smile on his face expecting some kind of warm welcome, thinking he'll satisfy his crave for a good cigar and he gets shut down! hahahah

"I got a headache, IT'S NOT A TUMAH!!"

He didnt go in.. From the report he orders online...

[macjoe53]

Originally Posted by NorcalMark

Hey guys,

I want to thank you for the kind words. My father started this small b&m 41 years ago. My aunt worked at the store. My grandfather worked in the store.
I grew up in and around the store. I have worked for my father for close to 16 years.


I never intended or dreamed of getting rich doing what I do. I do it for the love of the leaf. And it keeps me close to my father who still works with me at the store. We still do things the old fashion way. We still make deals with a hand shake not a contract and a lawyer. Because you are only as good as your word. If the deal smells, we get rid of it.

My sign was my way of protesting something I didn't and still don't think is right. I never intended for this to make the paper let alone the news. I don't
seek the limelight or wish to be famous. Although I'd like to see that Katherine Heigl chick up close and personal. LOL

I do what I do for the love of the industry. Not to get rich, but to take care of my family, live a comfortable life. I wake up everyday wondering what is next. I just found out yesterday that another group has filed an initiative to raise the tobacco tax on cigars and cigarettes. This is shortly after the house speakers plan failed.

IT NEVER ENDS.

Again thank you for the kind words. Keep up the fight in your own states, because if you think it won't happen to you or in your state, you are sadly mistaken.

Mark Just
Owner/President
Tower Pipes & Cigars.

If you take online orders, I'll buy from you.

[oceanelect4]

way to go guy love your style. cant figure out with the the cable and tv statement my bill keeps going up if its cable or direct. yr after yr after yr.

[BradSacramento]

Don't really know how to do it but we should give massive ring gauge to Mark!

Brad

[dwhitacre]

Originally Posted by BradSacramento

Don't really know how to do it but we should give massive ring gauge to Mark!

Brad

I just bumped him Brad!!!

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[l0venpeace]

Originally Posted by Volt

Heck it's not the taxes that force me to the devil site, it's the mark up. $18 a Gurkha Beast at the B&M, box of 5 at the devil site averaged out at $8 a stick. I get they need to charge a bit more for the walls, electricity, etc, but a 125% more??? I like going in and getting single sticks, butane, a tin or two but fiscally it's just not something I can afford. Truley makes this new guy wonder about teh cigar pricing world.

125% more is not unreasonable. First, WHOLESALE on the Beast is higher than that. So the site selling at $8/stick is taking a loss on the sale, or they have negotiated for a better wholesale rate with their mass buying power (a la Walmart). Plus, rent on a retail space is easily $6,000/month or more, plus you have to pay all of those employees. Start crunching the numbers and it adds up f-a-s-t.

Bottom line is the proposed taxes are bad for both internet and B&M vendors, not to mention consumers. I say, bring back tea tax and let us smoke in peace!

Obama is (was) a smoker- I wonder if he'll support the industry or go the other way to prove to his critics that he can be hard on smoking? If Arnold, of all politicians, has supported a cigar tax, any thing's possible.

[Volt]

Originally Posted by l0venpeace

125% more is not unreasonable. First, WHOLESALE on the Beast is higher than that. So the site selling at $8/stick is taking a loss on the sale, or they have negotiated for a better wholesale rate with their mass buying power (a la Walmart). Plus, rent on a retail space is easily $6,000/month or more, plus you have to pay all of those employees. Start crunching the numbers and it adds up f-a-s-t.

Bottom line is the proposed taxes are bad for both internet and B&M vendors, not to mention consumers. I say, bring back tea tax and let us smoke in peace!

Obama is (was) a smoker- I wonder if he'll support the industry or go the other way to prove to his critics that he can be hard on smoking? If Arnold, of all politicians, has supported a cigar tax, any thing's possible.

Might depend on where your at. Rent in the strip mall where this one is at runs about $1,400 a month. Employees - 1 owner and 1 employee. Maybe the B&M needs to buy from Cbid and then sell at a discount if the devil site is selling below what they have to pay. I'm not in the great cigar loop in the world, but it's definitly screwy. Living out in the country so to speak, I do a ton of my shopping on the internet, beats paying the gas bill to drive around. This product seems to have the largest price swing of any even if I exclude the auction site. I still vist the B&M, just not as much as I would like I would like too.

[NorcalMark]

Originally Posted by macjoe53

If you take online orders, I'll buy from you.

I sure do Mac.

www.towercigars.com/store