One Ugly Cigar

[redryno247]

So tonight I sat down to enjoy a Rocky Patel Connecticut and as I was removing the band (pre-light) it snagged on the wrapper. This snag quickly became a full blown tear, and resulted in the entire wrapper, minus about a half an inch at the head, falling off in one giant piece. As I looked at my now wrapperless cigar, I contemplated tossing it. But then I thought to myself, what's the worst that can happen at this point? So I lit it up and 90 minutes later, I realized I'd had myself a very enjoyable, albeit UGLY smoke.

I'm sorry I didn't have my camera with me to take a picture, but for some it may have been too much to witness (lol).

[TripleF]

And there's proof that you can't judge a book by it's cover.

Sorry about the wrapper coming offf.

[Wolfgang8810]

I had a experience similar to this with a gurkha black dragon tonight. Granted i ham handed the cutter and lopped off 1/4 inch DOH!

[KASR]

This has happened at the Evan's house a few times...for some reason, Duck's cigars always seem to come unraveled. So what we usually do is unroll the entire cigar, drop it in the bowl or stinky and start lighting it and just freebase the aroma's!

Glad to see that you turned lemons into lemonade!

[drhalle]

I have had people tell me that the wrapper is 70% of the taste when you smoke a cigar, (I don't agree, by the way.)
So you smoked an entirely different cigar that the one you started to smoke.
I've had that happen to me also, but KASR I've never just lit it and let it burn in the stinky. That's not freebasing whatever that is. That's a death pyre, that was popular during the 14th century.

[redryno247]

Originally Posted by drhalle

I have had people tell me that the wrapper is 70% of the taste when you smoke a cigar, (I don't agree, by the way.)
So you smoked an entirely different cigar that the one you started to smoke.
I've had that happen to me also, but KASR I've never just lit it and let it burn in the stinky. That's not freebasing whatever that is. That's a death pyre, that was popular during the 14th century.

I've heard the same thing, that the majority of the flavor comes from the wrapper, but then I've heard just the opposite; that it comes primarily from the filler and binder. Either way, the cigar had a decent flavor that didn't seem to be impacted by the lack of a wrapper. I was however, impressed at just how well it stayed together during the smoke. Other than looking ugly, it was a normal smoke.

[Bax]

I had myself one of those moments with an Opus not too long ago. Way to suck it up and have a great smoke.

[SR Mike]

Originally Posted by drhalle

I have had people tell me that the wrapper is 70% of the taste when you smoke a cigar, (I don't agree, by the way.)
So you smoked an entirely different cigar that the one you started to smoke.
I've had that happen to me also, but KASR I've never just lit it and let it burn in the stinky. That's not freebasing whatever that is. That's a death pyre, that was popular during the 14th century.

I think the wrapper makes up for more flavor on a smaller ring gauge cigar that a larger one.

I have noticed a lot of older RP cigars have the problem with the band being glued to the wrapper. Either way, if you are enjoying what you are smoking, who cares what it looks like.

[Razorhog]

I think the wrapper can and does add a little flavor, but the majority comes from the filler/binder. I mean look at how much of a cigar is filler/binder and how much is wrapper. 98 or 99% filler/binder compared to 1 or 2% wrapper. I think wrapper is mainly a way to make the stogie look nice.

[Puffin Fresh]

Originally Posted by SR Mike

I think the wrapper makes up for more flavor on a smaller ring gauge cigar that a larger one.

I have noticed a lot of older RP cigars have the problem with the band being glued to the wrapper. Either way, if you are enjoying what you are smoking, who cares what it looks like.

It also depends on the type of wrapper.

[CigarMonkel]

Originally Posted by KASR

This has happened at the Evan's house a few times...for some reason, Duck's cigars always seem to come unraveled. So what we usually do is unroll the entire cigar, drop it in the bowl or stinky and start lighting it and just freebase the aroma's!

Glad to see that you turned lemons into lemonade!

HAHAHAHHAHA i've had the exact same thing happen to me and i still smoked it! tasted great to me. hell, why not smoke it?

[OSIRIS]

Originally Posted by SR Mike

I think the wrapper makes up for more flavor on a smaller ring gauge cigar that a larger one.

I have noticed a lot of older RP cigars have the problem with the band being glued to the wrapper. Either way, if you are enjoying what you are smoking, who cares what it looks like.

I've noticed the same thing with RPs, usually I let them burn pretty close to the band and the glue will soften up and let go.

[redryno247]

Originally Posted by CigarMonkel

HAHAHAHHAHA i've had the exact same thing happen to me and i still smoked it! tasted great to me. hell, why not smoke it?

Exactly, you've got to at least give it a try, right? If it sucks then toss it, but you've gotta try!!!

Originally Posted by OSIRIS

I've noticed the same thing with RPs, usually I let them burn pretty close to the band and the glue will soften up and let go.

The past few months I've been taking the bands off first thing, it just feels better to me, but I may have to switch back to when I used to do it this way.

[cab28]

I usually let the cigar heat the band before removing it (not always close to the band just heating the glue). Recently I had a similar expierience with the RP 10th Anniversary. Not as severe though. I only lost a small patch of wrapper. I did'nt have any problems beyond that.

[redryno247]

From several of the comments here, I'm beginning to wonder if this isn't a problem specifically related to RP...I've not had this problem with other RP I've smoked, except once with a Vintage 90...but it wasn't near as bad as what I described above.