Project of the Day : Bail Jar Humidor

[tedrodgerscpa]

Originally Posted by tzaddi

Being all about the science I impart this information to you.



And therein lies the difference between laying on the couch and bee-bopping around cleaning and inventing, what have you.

If one where to go to a "Coffee Shop" in Amsterdam, the person behind the counter who in many cases is also a barista would show you the cannabis menu and if you where not familiar with the items listed he/she would then proceed to explain the differences in terms of the above quote and based
on your needs and/or desires a selection could be made.

"Out of the darkness comes knowledge. Out of the light comes wisdom."

And, for those of you subject to random drug testing, you should NOT re-read that post more than once!

[shilala]

Originally Posted by The Mum

Excellent idea! I guess you need all of those stogies wrapped in cello unless you use something different for the beads?

My beads are 100% pure no chemicals added, so I don't have to worry a bit about them being on, around, or near my cigars.
Some sticks are wrapped and some aren't, but there's no matter either way. I prefer them to be out of the cello, just didn't take time to peel all of them. I may take them down and peel them if I get bored.

[Benjy]

Any concern about light reaching the cigars? I would assume direct sunlight would tend to degrade them, but maybe you've got them in a room without much sun.

[Mr Flibble]

Looks good. I have one of the larger jars myself. I am using it to infuse a bundle on cheapos with coffee and whiskey. They have been resting about 5 months.

How will you go about recharging those beads? Looks like a bit of work with the gars on top of them.

[txmatt]

Originally Posted by Mr Flibble

How will you go about recharging those beads? Looks like a bit of work with the gars on top of them.

Indirect application; I think an inverted and open ended tubo would work.

So many people are caught up in adding water to their beads by pouring/spraying/soaking or other direct methods. The revolutionary thing about beads as compared to green foam is that they easily absorb excess humidity from the environment; you don't need to directly add the moisture to recharge the medium. Put water in the environment and as it evaporates the beads absorb it.

[Mr Flibble]

I guess with the amount of beads he seems to has laying around he can keep spares charged up and ready to go.

I'll have to start thinking up neat cigar projects like this and his others. I don't want to be the only guy stuck with a boring humi.

[tzaddi]

Originally Posted by txmatt

Indirect application; I think an inverted and open ended tubo would work.

So many people are caught up in adding water to their beads by pouring/spraying/soaking or other direct methods. The revolutionary thing about beads as compared to green foam is that they easily absorb excess humidity from the environment; you don't need to directly add the moisture to recharge the medium. Put water in the environment and as it evaporates the beads absorb it.

That is an excellent piece of information that can't be restated enough. This is especially important when the bags of beads are dispersed thoughout a large cooler. I keep a few pieces (cut with scissors) of pristine cellulose sponges around. I just moisten and place them in a safe place, such as a small saucer or what have you, just as long as it is not touching anything crucial in the humi.

[Darrell]

I have a small recommendation.

A lot of boxes come with a thin layer of cedar on top of the sticks. I would take that and bend it around the inside of the jar as sort of a lining, it might break but oh well. At least it will be some cedar to help with the preservation/aging process.

[Spect]

Originally Posted by txmatt

Indirect application; I think an inverted and open ended tubo would work.

So many people are caught up in adding water to their beads by pouring/spraying/soaking or other direct methods. The revolutionary thing about beads as compared to green foam is that they easily absorb excess humidity from the environment; you don't need to directly add the moisture to recharge the medium. Put water in the environment and as it evaporates the beads absorb it.

Tall glasses, like a double shot don't work well. I suspect this is because there is very little interface with the air in the humidor and the 'tubo' would suffer the same issues.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Mr Flibble

How will you go about recharging those beads? Looks like a bit of work with the gars on top of them.

There's enough water in those beads that I can open that jar once a month for 100 years and they won't need to be recharged.
If it were necessary, I'd simply take the bag out and throw it in my wine cooler for a few days where they would be reconditioned to the wine cooler's RH%age. The wine coolers both have HCM beads and hydras.

Someone asked about sunlight, too.
That's the north side of my house. It never gets any sun, plus they're away from the windows, around the corner.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Darrell

I have a small recommendation.

A lot of boxes come with a thin layer of cedar on top of the sticks. I would take that and bend it around the inside of the jar as sort of a lining, it might break but oh well. At least it will be some cedar to help with the preservation/aging process.

That is an excellent idea.
I have a bunch of those sheets in boxes and lying around.
If I steam them they will soften and I can form them around the outside of the jars and slap a rubber band over them.
When they dry I can slide them off an drop them in the jars.
If I cut it in half, it'll just cover the back of the jar and make a real cool backdrop. I'm going to mess with that right now.
I'll take pics.
Thanks Darrell!!!

[nozero]

Originally Posted by tzaddi

BTW you have mad docu/photo skills.

Rock on bro!

[shilala]

Originally Posted by Spect

Tall glasses, like a double shot don't work well. I suspect this is because there is very little interface with the air in the humidor and the 'tubo' would suffer the same issues.

It's all about surface area.
Once beads are an inch deep, all those beads beyond an inch are completely useless at transferring water vapor to the air. They do nothing more than hold water and wick it to the beads above. A huge waste of money, really.
That's why good bead container design relies on the beads never being more than an inch deep. Viper's bead tubes for instance. Absolutely brilliant.
A tubo filled with beads would work the same as a tubo with one inch of beads in it.
Now, if a guy was to perforate the entire tube, he'd have something. Fact is, it'd look awful and poke you and the cigars full of holes unless you took all the wickers off.
Just not a real good way to roll. David sells his tubes without beads in them. They are an incredible value, and an indispensable tool for using loose beads.
The material I use allows more surface area, but it's not something that folks can get easily and there's a large learning curve just to be able to make stuff from it. It's taken me 30 yards of 20" wide material just to get good at making bags and tubes out of it. That's a lot of beadbags.
If I didn't have the stuff I have, I'd definately be using David's Heartfelt bead tubes. They kick ass. Big Time.

[Darrell]

Originally Posted by shilala

That is an excellent idea.
I have a bunch of those sheets in boxes and lying around.
If I steam them they will soften and I can form them around the outside of the jars and slap a rubber band over them.
When they dry I can slide them off an drop them in the jars.
If I cut it in half, it'll just cover the back of the jar and make a real cool backdrop. I'm going to mess with that right now.
I'll take pics.
Thanks Darrell!!!

Glad to help.

[shilala]

Originally Posted by nozero

Rock on bro!

You want to see a thing of beauty, you oughta see Richard's photo documenting skillz. Totally badass. I learn from everything he posts. I'm a leech.