Moral Dilemma

[Tw3nty]

Originally Posted by dwhitacre

Here is the catch 22 - My wife placed an order with Cigars International and when the box came she noticed that it was huge, much bigger than the lighter she ordered.

Inside the box were 20 boxes of Backwoods cigars.

I will tell you later what she decided to do. But here is the question...

What would you do?

This can only be a moral dilemma if i value what is in the scenario. This is a no brainer. You call the company. make the boxes 20 assorted boxes of real Cubans and know you have amoral dilemma that will take me a while to think through. I might become an immoral man.

Or I might over intellectualize and ask my self does one immoral act make an immoral man.

[shilala]

Imagine if they were PAM26's. Oh, the pain.
I'd still call them, but I gotta admit, it'd be tough for a couple minutes.
It isn't worth the negative karma. Even if it was a tractor trailer full, I'd still send them back. I don't want anything that isn't mine, cause I don't wanna pay the bill.

[dwhitacre]

Originally Posted by vanderburg

This can only be a moral dilemma if i value what is in the scenario. This is a no brainer. You call the company. make the boxes 20 assorted boxes of real Cubans and know you have amoral dilemma that will take me a while to think through. I might become an immoral man.

Or I might over intellectualize and ask my self does one immoral act make an immoral man.

Originally Posted by shilala

Imagine if they were PAM26's. Oh, the pain.
I'd still call them, but I gotta admit, it'd be tough for a couple minutes.
It isn't worth the negative karma. Even if it was a tractor trailer full, I'd still send them back. I don't want anything that isn't mine, cause I don't wanna pay the bill.

Originally Posted by paul95se

Too bad they weren't boxes of GOF's or something. I might be willing to go to hell if in that position.

It makes it more difficult when it is something we really want to have for ourselves. I guess that is why are morals are also known as our values!!!

[RUJohnny99]

Originally Posted by vanderburg

make the boxes 20 assorted boxes of real Cubans and know you have amoral dilemma that will take me a while to think through. I might become an immoral man.

Or I might over intellectualize and ask my self does one immoral act make an immoral man.

Of course not. If 20 assorted boxes of real Cubans show up on your door, you call up Customs, tell them someone sent you 3 boxes of Cubans, and you want to do your duty and turn them in to the proper authorities.

[JordanWexler]

I guess what you could hope for was that they would be like, "hey this guy was nice enough, maybe i'll send him a couple of nice singles." better than that backwoods crap anyway.

[The Postman]

I am with the majority on this one. Phone them up, and let them make the decision as to what they want to do about this, its the only way to play it. If they want them returned, so be it!

[44MAG]

what is backwoods natural tobacco anyway?

[No1der]

I consider myself a moral person. I also feel very anticorporate.

So, if the mistake was made by a small business vendor I'd call and give the cigars back.

This is CI though and that makes me think twice. Don't know for certain what I would do.

On the one hand, the right thing to do is to be a standup person and call CI.

However a case can also be made that people learn best from their mistakes and CI having to bite the bullet on this one would certainly make them remeber their mistake and thus they wouldn't do it again.

As I said, I'm not certain what I would do but I'm leaning towards sending the CI mistake to the troops. This way morality is satisfied and a lesson is learned by CI.

[gnukfu]

[SIZE="4"]Heather, Thanks for the pic of Backwoods Darrell! That will come in handy.....sometime......in the future! [/SIZE]

[ScottishSmoker]

Send them back, its not what you ordered and I hate to say it, it is the ethical and right thing to do...I would not even consider keeping them...mainly because I did not pay for them (nor would I...Backwoods...)

[koolbooy]

if you want to keep them, you can call and pay the difference, but if you have no interest in them, just send them back. no need for negative karma

of course, in different situations .... lets say you got 10 Padrons accidentally. When i call CI back, i only mention about 8

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[BamBam]

With that many backwoods I think they would have found the error on their own anyways.

[jamz]

"Stolen" cigars don't taste as good, so she did the right thing! Glad to see so many people here are of the same mind.

[tnip23]

Originally Posted by No1der

I consider myself a moral person. I also feel very anticorporate.

So, if the mistake was made by a small business vendor I'd call and give the cigars back.

This is CI though and that makes me think twice. Don't know for certain what I would do.

On the one hand, the right thing to do is to be a standup person and call CI.

However a case can also be made that people learn best from their mistakes and CI having to bite the bullet on this one would certainly make them remeber their mistake and thus they wouldn't do it again.

As I said, I'm not certain what I would do but I'm leaning towards sending the CI mistake to the troops. This way morality is satisfied and a lesson is learned by CI.

What lesson is learned by CI? a person in shipping made a mistake and you want to punish an "evil" corporation for it by stealing and reshipping a bunch of cheap smokes? Last time i checked, most corporations were once small businesses that succeeded and grew into a corp. There are bad businesses both big and small, and CI is not one of them in my experience. The whole anti-corporate attitude is a big pile of to me. Corporations provide us with jobs, services, and important products such as cigars. I support local b&m's, local mom & pops, and i also buy from CI and wal-mart, whoever provides me with the best selection, price, service, or combination thereof.

[mdtaggart]

Come on now! You know u smoked one, so just fes up!