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This is a discussion on Moral Dilemma within the General Cigar Discussion forums, part of the The Cigar Lounges at Puff category; Originally Posted by gnukfu [SIZE=4] Heather, Thanks for the pic of Backwoods Darrell! That will come in handy.....sometime......in the future! ...

View Poll Results: What would you do?
Call CI immediately and send them back! 193 75.10%
Take a few days to think about it! 5 1.95%
Send them back because their Backwoods! 36 14.01%
Never tell and smoke them! 6 2.33%
Never tell and give them to the troops! 16 6.23%
Never tell that I smoke them, because they're Backwoods! 1 0.39%
Voters: 257. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-04-2008, 11:56 AM   #46
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Re: Moral Dilemma

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[SIZE=4]Heather, Thanks for the pic of Backwoods Darrell! That will come in handy.....sometime......in the future! [/SIZE]

No Problem George!! That picture cracks me up! Darrell and I are both nerds...what can I say (of course, I would never let him post a picture like that of me!!!)!
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:21 PM   #47
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[SIZE="4"]You have waited long enough![/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]Of course[/SIZE] she called CI immediately and they are sending the postage for her to send them back!!!

But we had to take a picture of the CI Bomb before we sent them back
That picture is fantastic! I got a good laugh
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:26 PM   #48
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If it were a small error I might be inclined to do nothing. However, a mistake that bad I would definitely give them a call and send them back. Backwoods or not.
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:26 PM   #49
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Re: Moral Dilemma

call them/email them.

Tell them you noticed a mistake in their shipment to you.

They might just tell you to keep them.

I had something simliar with a Jeep Parts place, and they told me to keep the item, which i did and ended up selling on ebay for a profit.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:24 PM   #50
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Re: Moral Dilemma

regardless of the quantity or brand of the mistake, call CI & ask for a prepaid shipping tag to send them back

if it were a brand i liked, i might ask CI if they minded if i smoked a few-shameless maybe, but at least still honest-considering most of us have never met, all we really have is our word in regards to trades & sales w/each other-i gotta say, some of the responses bother me-JMHO
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:30 PM   #51
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regardless of the quantity or brand of the mistake, call CI & ask for a prepaid shipping tag to send them back.
That is exactly what they are doing! They are sending a shipping tag that we put on the box and then we send them back!
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:38 PM   #52
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Re: Moral Dilemma

Someone needs to photoshop the arms off of that shirt and put a Larry the Cable Guy hat on Darrell. Great picture and great decision on dealing with the smokes.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:39 PM   #53
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What lesson is learned by CI? a person in shipping made a mistake and you want to punish an "evil" corporation for it by stealing and reshipping a bunch of cheap smokes? Last time i checked, most corporations were once small businesses that succeeded and grew into a corp. There are bad businesses both big and small, and CI is not one of them in my experience. The whole anti-corporate attitude is a big pile of to me. Corporations provide us with jobs, services, and important products such as cigars. I support local b&m's, local mom & pops, and i also buy from CI and wal-mart, whoever provides me with the best selection, price, service, or combination thereof.
Not to mention those "horrible" corporations also pay the majority of this countries taxes.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:40 PM   #54
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Re: Moral Dilemma

When I'm given the incorrect change from a minimum wage cashier, or I'm charged the wrong price, I always let them know. This is whether or not the error was in my favor.

It's karma / the golden rule... Do unto others.

For me, it wouldn't matter whether they were Backwoods or Cohibas. It's the right thing to inform the vendor that there was an error.
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Someone needs to photoshop the arms off of that shirt and put a Larry the Cable Guy hat on Darrell.

[SIZE=5]That is hilarious!!![/SIZE]
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:43 PM   #56
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I think that is completely 'Avatar' or 'Profile Pic' worthy!
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Re: Moral Dilemma

Anything less than returning the merchandise sent to you by mistake would be the wrong thing to do. You can't justify keeping, giving away, or selling somebody else's stuff. It doesn't matter if it's cheap cigars, a stolen plasma TV, whatever. That ain't honesty. That's not what I'd want to see in the mirror.
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:08 PM   #58
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I consider myself a moral person. I also feel very anticorporate.

So, if the mistake was made by a small business vendor I'd call and give the cigars back.

This is CI though and that makes me think twice. Don't know for certain what I would do.

On the one hand, the right thing to do is to be a standup person and call CI.

However a case can also be made that people learn best from their mistakes and CI having to bite the bullet on this one would certainly make them remeber their mistake and thus they wouldn't do it again.

As I said, I'm not certain what I would do but I'm leaning towards sending the CI mistake to the troops. This way morality is satisfied and a lesson is learned by CI.
This sounds so ridiculous I am not sure where to begin. You speak of CI as if it is a person. CI does not think for itself, all of its employees do the thinking as a group. Humans make mistakes; forgive them and send back their property.
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Re: Moral Dilemma

Obviously I'm in the minority here and so be it.

But a question was asked and I answered it honestly so don't go chewing my head off just because I voiced my opinion.

If you don't agree with me, fine. I don't see anywhere that I gave anyone on here grief because their opinion differes from mine.

Also, if you read my post closely you would see that I said I wasn't certain what I would do.

So what happens now? I get black balled for discussing the different points of view?

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This sounds so ridiculous I am not sure where to begin. You speak of CI as if it is a person. CI does not think for itself, all of its employees do the thinking as a group. Humans make mistakes; forgive them and send back their property.
As far as corporations go, just take a look at what Walmart does to local busineses and tell me there isn't something wrong.

Here's an example, Palestine Texas use to be a small town with many local busineses and then Walmart came to town and now the two major employers are Walmart and the three prisons in the area. This does not sit well with me.

Yes, I do shop at Walmart from time to time but that's only because I'm not a rich man and have to go for the lowest price I can find. Doesn't mean I approve of their business practice of bullying small businesses and running them to ruin.

So yes, when a corporation learns a lesson by getting mildly hit in the pocketbook and our soldiers get som cigars, to me this seems like a plausible alternative to all the other posts.

As for why my response seems somewhat irritated, it's because I can't help but take some offense to this statement.

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This sounds so ridiculous I am not sure where to begin.
With that statement alone you just called me and my point of view "ridiculous"...
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Old 04-04-2008, 04:12 PM   #60
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CI has always done right be me. I think I'd let 'em know.
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