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Old 05-27-2008, 11:30 PM   #1
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temperature leeway?

I know this is discussed a LOT in passing. However, I need a solid answer. My 100 count humidor is very steady 65% but the damn temp is like 74 degrees. I'm not going to develop mold anytime soon am I? My understanding is that over time, yes, it's "possible," but I smoke several cigars per week, and I buy new sticks all the time. So my humidor is constantly being added to/subtracted from. Do I have a problem on my hands?
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:33 PM   #2
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Re: temperature leeway?

High temperatures = Beetles
High humidity = Mold

Having your temp that high constantly will be a problem, if it went that high and then drops back down you should be fine. Try to find a cooler spot in the house, like a closet or dark room.
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Re: temperature leeway?

As long as your RH% is controlled I don't think that mold should be a problem. With higher temperatures come beetle problems. I don't have a way to control the temperature in my 40 count and tupperdor and recently had to freeze all of my cigars because I found a cigar with suspicious wrapper damage.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:35 PM   #4
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Re: temperature leeway?

When the temp in my 50 ct hit 75, I got a Haier 12 bottle wine cooler. the highest setting will keep them at 67 deg. the problem with that is the temp and humidity in Ga. is hell on the stick when you take it out of 67deg at 65%.
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Old 05-27-2008, 11:36 PM   #5
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Re: temperature leeway?

I always love this question.
Can it be a problem?
Well, can one die someday?
Yes we can but are we going to die over the thought of dying?

In Florida, my humi runs around 77 year 'round.
It has been that way for over 12 years now that I have lived here.
Maybe I am lucky but I have never had a problem.

Next, ask my dad what did he do to cool down cigars when living in Cuba.
Answer: Nothing. They didn't have a/c.

In summary, can it be a problem and with modern knowledge, do we know better? Sure, but it doesn't mean we are going to die.
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Re: temperature leeway?

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I always love this question.
Can it be a problem?
Well, can one die someday?
Yes we can but are we going to die over the thought of dying?

In Florida, my humi runs around 77 year 'round.
It has been that way for over 12 years now that I have lived here.
Maybe I am lucky but I have never had a problem.

Next, ask my dad what did he do to cool down cigars when living in Cuba.
Answer: Nothing. They didn't have a/c.

In summary, can it be a problem and with modern knowledge, do we know better? Sure, but it doesn't mean we are going to die.

yep the same here but not as long and not as high im usually at 73-74 been like this for 2-3 years no beetle yet... but from what ive read when ya start hitting the 80's temp thats when you normally gonna have the bugs problem...
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Re: temperature leeway?

Don't sweat it, my humi got up around 80 degrees last summer and lived to tell about it. If you're particularly concerned about beetles give you're collection a good freeze before the summer heat hits in full effect.
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Re: temperature leeway?

Is there a temp where it's too low (besides freezing them)? For example, I keep my humidor in the basement, where it's a consistent 64 degrees. Just wondering what effect, if any, will the 64 degrees have on the cigars? Thanks all.
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64 is perfect. As temps go lower, they age slower and it's harder to maintain humidity; other than that, lower temps shouldn't cause any problems.
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64 is perfect. As temps go lower, they age slower and it's harder to maintain humidity; other than that, lower temps shouldn't cause any problems.
Awesome....thanks!

It's funny about the RH, though, because since I've had them in the basement it seems my humidity issues (being too low) have disappeared. When I have the humi upstairs, I'm constantly having to recharge my Heartfelt beads. I know I have a small leak in my humi, but since keeping it in the basement, the RH has been fine. I did add 10 sticks recently, which might account for the balance in RH.

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Is there a temp where it's too low (besides freezing them)? For example, I keep my humidor in the basement, where it's a consistent 64 degrees. Just wondering what effect, if any, will the 64 degrees have on the cigars? Thanks all.
I just read in some cigar magazine that keeping them at 64 or below for four weeks kills beetle eggs.
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Old 05-28-2008, 01:47 PM   #12
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Re: temperature leeway?

I don't consider a constant 74 degrees high.
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Re: temperature leeway?

On another note. About 2 years ago I read the "Idiots Guide to Cigars" (which is currently being passed around). That book suggested that freezing cigars will dry them out. It suggested vacuum sealing them, as opposed to freezing. Apparently the beetle eggs cannot stand pressure, and for the most part MOST manufacturers vacuum seal their cigars before they ever get distributed. Is this true? I hear people talking about freezing all the time, but I always remember back to that book which specifically says freezing is a 100% myth. (it will kill eggs, but also dry out the cigar)

I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes at ALL. I'm just curious to know the science behind this whole ordeal.
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Re: temperature leeway?

Keep your temp. under 80 and rh around 65 to 70 and you will be fine .
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