Mad at Carnival Cruise Lines

[Cigarin-Martin]

Originally Posted by papajohn67

Which ship?

Its the carribean princess.

[squeeze left]

Sorry to hear about your experience. Big business (i.e. cruise lines) can more or less trample on our rights - even more so when they've got us in international waters, where U.S. law and smoking bans don't even apply. From my understanding, you should be able to get a refund of the difference between the value of the cruise you expected to get and the cruise you actually got, without cigar lounge.

FWIW, Billionaire Micky Arison, Chairman/CEO of Carnival Corporation (and part owner of the Miami Heat) gave to both Fred Thompson AND Hillary Clinton in the last year, and since 1986 has given
$201,250 Republican$135,950 Democrat
according to
http://www.newsmeat.com/billionaire_...cky_Arison.php

Moral of this story: Carnival Cruises is out to make money, and if can make more money by banning cigar smoking then that is what it is going to do. Is this a guy you want to give money to??

[groogs]

I feel your pain. I took a cruise to Alaska on a Royal Caribean ship and they did not allow cigars anywhere except on the open decks (Starbord side) and in a cigar bar that was open from 9:00pm to 1:00am. I was in the Casino and I asked if it was okay to smoke, and they said yes, but when I started to uncelo my cigar they said, "you can't smoke cigars, only cigarettes." God forbid I smoke a tobacco product without 300 deadly chemicals added. I enjoyed my smokes outside, but it was really annoying that cigar smokers are baned when cigarette smokers are free to puff away on their equally if not more deadly smoke.

[moosebrew]

Does anyone know if Carnival has banned cigar smoking in the cigar lounge on ALL the ships? I am supposed to be going on a Carribean cruise at the end of September on the Liberty ship.

The only thing I told the wife when she planned the cruise was that it HAD to have a cigar lounge. Other than that I did not care when or where we went. I'm really going to be pissed if I get there and find out I have to smoke outside!

[tadams17]

I went in February on Carnival Triumph, me and the father in law went to the Cigar Bar everynight, always had a Jazz band or something performing every night and there were always tons of people also they jack the prices of there smokes up "glad I took mine" but I drink Scotch or Whiskey when I smoke and we all know that 's not cheap....They are missing the boat on this one...

[papajohn67]

Well after our last cruise with Holland America I let them know that it was my last cruise with them.....I'm sure that shook them to their very foundation. We had done a number of cruises with HAL since 92 but have to face the fact we are out numbered on this one. Really pisses me off that smokers can not have at least one place on a ship that is located inside where they can smoke should they wish too. This is not about non smokers being subjected to smokers but instead non smokers with a agenda to stomp out smoking completely...everywhere!! Wait for more fun after this Novembers election.

[craigchilds]

Originally Posted by moosebrew

Does anyone know if Carnival has banned cigar smoking in the cigar lounge on ALL the ships? I am supposed to be going on a Carribean cruise at the end of September on the Liberty ship.

The only thing I told the wife when she planned the cruise was that it HAD to have a cigar lounge. Other than that I did not care when or where we went. I'm really going to be pissed if I get there and find out I have to smoke outside!

I'm not sure. The employee at the Guest Services' desk told me the new rule was for all ships in Carnival's fleet. But the cruise director told my friend the rule was only for "one or two ships" so the corporate office could guage customer response.

If I were you, I'd call Carnival TODAY and start complaining.

[craigchilds]

Originally Posted by tadams17

I went in February on Carnival Triumph, me and the father in law went to the Cigar Bar everynight, always had a Jazz band or something performing every night and there were always tons of people also they jack the prices of there smokes up "glad I took mine" but I drink Scotch or Whiskey when I smoke and we all know that 's not cheap....They are missing the boat on this one...

You make me jealous. This is exactly how I had planned to spend my evenings.

[Coz77]

Originally Posted by Mr. Ed

Go to an all inclusive resort in Jamaica or the Dominican Republic, much better than being aboard a big boat.

all inclusive is the way to go. I went to Jamaica and loved every minute of it! You could enjoy a cigar in the pool, at any outdoor bar, in your room, on the beach basically anywhere but inside the restaurants... nobody cared. However the resort I went to did not allow children, something else id highly recommend

[sjnovakovich]

I wonder what would have happened if you lit up in the bar anyway, despite the restrictions.

[Cigarin-Martin]

Originally Posted by sjnovakovich

I wonder what would have happened if you lit up in the bar anyway, despite the restrictions.

A BIG SPLASH!!

[sailchaser]

I have been on 2 cruises and the annoying thing about the cigar lounge is that all the cigarette smokers use it. I had 20 cig smokers to 1 cigar smoker and the ventilation was good on the gem but not so good on the freedom.

as said earlier write the line and vocie your wants and needs

[TideRoll]

I have no problem with a business of whatever type being smoke-free. Business owners should have the right to determine this for themselves (but of course they don't in many places). The problem is the bait and switch they pulled here. They can call it a test or policy experiment or whatever, but it is still dishonest. Cigar smoking in this appropriately named lounge was allowed when you booked it, it was not when you got there. Is there anything more ludicrous than a cigar bar not allowing cigar smoking? Probably, but this ranks right up there.

I now know not to give Carnival my patronage. Thanks for the heads up.

[dooge]

man, that seriously is a pain in the arse. I agree with others who have posted in here and write a letter to their head office. And put some cigar ash in the envelope too.

[craigchilds]

Originally Posted by TideRoll

II now know not to give Carnival my patronage. Thanks for the heads up.

You are welcome.

My traveling buddy and I sent a letter to Carnival this morning, explaining our grievance and asking for a refund of our ticket prices. I also mentioned I am an active member of this forum, and will not hesitate to let other cigar smokers know that Carnival is not "stogie friendly" anymore.

We recieved a response saying that our complaint will be investigated and a response will be mailed to us via US Postal Service (I smell form letter).