New Neighbor hates my cigar smoking

[romwarrior]

I just bought a house and got really lucky that my neighbor (on one side at least) is a fellow BOTL. We've exchanged a few cigars and everything.

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by bige610

I didnt mean homesexual. I meant stupid. Im sorry if i offened anyone ill edit it.

Thank you, sir.

We've had some issues with this in the past. Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part. Appreciate the "edit".

[Pat1075]

My neighbors complain to my landlord about me all the time. They say I sit in my apt. smoking cheap cigars the first time I heard word of this was the night after I smoked an opus. After a few months the insert of a glade plug in suspiciously showed up on top of the light next to my door (it smells terrible). No one has come to talk to me about it besides my landlord and property manager. All of whom I have given cigars or cookies to(I like to cook). Meanwhile I have never once gone to the landlord about the vile smells of boiling horseflesh coming from some of my neighbors apartments. As I'm sure they aren't fond of the smell of my italian cooking. Mainly because people have the right to be left alone.

[AllOGistics]

Originally Posted by bige610

I think if my neighbors were mean to me about it I would not even care though.

Oh, I don't care, and I won't until she is civilized about it. For a while there was an elderly man that lived across from me. He asked that I didn't smoke outside when he was on his walk. I fully respected that and altered accordingly. The difference was that he was very respectful and kind about it.

Originally Posted by romwarrior

I just bought a house and got really lucky that my neighbor (on one side at least) is a fellow BOTL. We've exchanged a few cigars and everything.

Gah, LUCKY! I'll trade you (neighbors, I mean).

[BagfullofPings]

I'm there for a "Piss Off Your OC Neighbor 1" HERF. I won't speak for Poriggity, but I'm sure he would show up.

[Yitlin]

I suddenly feel a lot luckier now about my neighbors after having read this topic. I guess it never occured to me someone would actually give you a hard time about doing your thing on your own property.

[bige610]

Originally Posted by BagfullofPings

I'm there for a "Piss Off Your OC Neighbor 1" HERF. I won't speak for Poriggity, but I'm sure he would show up.

I still have a lot of friends out there. maybe i can make it.

[hardcz]

I wouldn't deliberatly piss people off... I just constantly think, People are Stupid... not in a mean way, just they are. Because they'll do stupid things, like cut you off, slam doors, etc...

[ColdCuts]

This is just a suggestion: Rather than have a passive-aggressive herf to strike back at your neighbors -- which certainly isn't going to bridge any gaps -- you might try a different tact. Rather than behave like the obnoxious inconsiderate SOBs your neighbors already take you (and likely all other cigar smokers) to be, try rising above it. Take the initiative. Approach them in an attempt to reach an accord. You might actually change their minds about cigar smokers, and maybe even cigars.

[ggainey]

Makes me glad I live in the sticks, with me or my family members owning the surrounding 10 acres.

[BigVito]

Originally Posted by DonnieW

You know, I have little respect for people such as your neighbors. If they can't approach you in a civilized/mature fashion to discuss their issue - f*ck 'em. I went through the same thing with my neighbors years ago. In my particular case it was about my loud music. Instead of coming to my place to discuss it, or even mention it in passing, they chose to slam all their damn doors at 5AM when the guy got up for work. That was both childish and pointless - unbeknownst to them I got up at 4AM and worked on the PC from home, no bother at all to me. Had they chosen to talk to me about it things would have been different. I'd do my best to respect them and also let them know that from time to time I like to crank it and if they are in a particular mood where they don't want to hear it, I would gladly turn it down.

[SIZE=2]My advise to you, ignore them. Don't bring the issue to them - play dumb and let them bring it to you.[/SIZE]

what if they are ugly?

[Asher]

Originally Posted by ColdCuts

This is just a suggestion: Rather than have a passive-aggressive herf to strike back at your neighbors -- which certainly isn't going to bridge any gaps -- you might try a different tact. Rather than behave like the obnoxious inconsiderate SOBs your neighbors already take you -- and likely all other cigar smokers -- to be, try rising above it. Take the initiative. Approach them in an attempt to reach an accord. You might actually change their mind about cigar smokers, and maybe even cigars.

I agree. We've got enough people against us as it is. Antagonizing non-smokers only helps the anti-tobacco folks get the support for even more restrictive legislation.

Talk to your neighbors and try find a compromise. Tell them a little bit about what you smoke and why you enjoy it, and perhaps even invite them over to try a cigar.

[Texan in Mexico]

Please get where Im going with this, Im trying to say we should promote this passion of ours:

I feel we should do what we can to share our passion and encourage others to try cigar smoking - it may be the best way to ensure we can continue enjoying it.

So instead of antagonizing those who do not enjoy cigar smoke why not try to understand them first.

Just for the sake of argument, do they have the right to live in the environment they choose?

If they find the smell of cigar smoke in their home offensive they have every right to try and rectify the situation. I know if the case were turned on me I would try and protect my family and home from what I find offensive as well.

In this case and in many of the mentioned cases the neighbors of the cigar smoker did not follow "the good neighbor policy" and acted childlishly or recklessly in some cases and their actions elicit consequences, aggression normally follows aggression right? Every night we all see the news tell us someone getting shot or about some disturbance that could have been avoided with a little restraint.

And if you live in an apartment you normally are renting and so the argument of doing what you want on your property doesnt really fly - as you do not "own" the area you inhabit (I do not believe the OP gave that information) ...

I encourage everyone to find ways to avoid creating conflict that only empassions those that are already against cigar smoking or maybe be straddling the fence on the issue.

As the great B & SOTL say here - pass it forward, be an embassador for this great passion of ours. I agree that sometimes you are just met with a brick wall and it creates an impasse but many times we can resolve these situations so its a winner for both sides.

Thank you

Travis

[epyon26]

I say offer a hand in friendship, if they reject it, Fu<% em, smoke like a freight train.

[Cay]

Years ago, when I was living in an apartment, the neighbors used to loudly tell all their visitors to excuse the stench from my nasty "see-gars," even if I wasn't currently smoking. Back then I would make a point of blowing some smoke towards their open windows or at the crack below their door while walking by; that was probably senseless and I don't suggest it.

I just moved into a new place here in the Great Southwest that has a walled-in backyard--something pretty common out here, but unusual in the Midwest. The wall is about 8 feet high and completely encloses the "garden" (mostly rocks and cactuses) and the patio. I thought it would be smoking paradise, but sometimes when I step out with a fine blend my neighbor will stand just on the other side of the wall and cough. I haven't done or said anything yet, but I'm tempted to cough back...

I get "The Cough" more than anything. I have a friend who likes to play bocce ball in the park. Sometimes when we were playing I would enjoy a nice cigar with the game. It was a great big wide open space, but people would still start coughing in unison from hundreds of feet away.

It seems like there is nowhere to go to have a cigar in peace (except the cigar shop, but the one I like isn't close and it closes so darn early). I've yet to "convert" anyone who is anti-smoking, but I agree that it's worth a shot to offer them one. We can use all the support we can get.