New Neighbor hates my cigar smoking

[lightning9191]

Originally Posted by BigVito

what if they are ugly?

They need love too!

[Old Sailor]

Just say 2 words.....bite me.

[seegarfan]

nuff said!

[BagfullofPings]

Screw that passive

[Hermit]

You were there first.
Tell him to move if he doesn't like it.

[BigVito]

Originally Posted by lightning9191

They need love too!

[pro2625]

An older lady and Id say her twenty yeard old son live there...Its funny cause its only a 1 bedroom apartment....

CUT THE UMBILICAL CORD KID!

[Texan in Mexico]

Originally Posted by BagfullofPings

Screw that passive

If your post is directed at one of us in particular I would enjoy reading your reasoning and how your proposal is more likely to produce the desired result.

[BagfullofPings]

Ahh, I see a happy ending!!

Help get the kid laid, teach him about cigars, teach him how to drink. If he likes you, mom will stop riding your a$$.

[Major Captain Silly]

Originally Posted by Texan in Mexico

Please get where Im going with this, Im trying to say we should promote this passion of ours:

I feel we should do what we can to share our passion and encourage others to try cigar smoking - it may be the best way to ensure we can continue enjoying it.

So instead of antagonizing those who do not enjoy cigar smoke why not try to understand them first.

Just for the sake of argument, do they have the right to live in the environment they choose?

If they find the smell of cigar smoke in their home offensive they have every right to try and rectify the situation. I know if the case were turned on me I would try and protect my family and home from what I find offensive as well.

In this case and in many of the mentioned cases the neighbors of the cigar smoker did not follow "the good neighbor policy" and acted childlishly or recklessly in some cases and their actions elicit consequences, aggression normally follows aggression right? Every night we all see the news tell us someone getting shot or about some disturbance that could have been avoided with a little restraint.

And if you live in an apartment you normally are renting and so the argument of doing what you want on your property doesnt really fly - as you do not "own" the area you inhabit (I do not believe the OP gave that information) ...

I encourage everyone to find ways to avoid creating conflict that only empassions those that are already against cigar smoking or maybe be straddling the fence on the issue.

As the great B & SOTL say here - pass it forward, be an embassador for this great passion of ours. I agree that sometimes you are just met with a brick wall and it creates an impasse but many times we can resolve these situations so its a winner for both sides.

Thank you

Travis

I have to agree with Travis. Diplomacy is always the best first move. I worry about how aggressive we've become on this planet. Here's a great story from Steve Saka on alt.smokers.cigars that puts things in perspective. I can't believe it was 10 years ago that he posted this;

Fellow ASCers,

I enjoyed a magical cigar moment while dining at Emeril's
New Orleans Fish House in the MGM Grand in Las Vegas after
the Boondoggle.

Cyd, my lovely wife, and I were comped a free dinner a
Emeril's by one of the pit bosses for my action at the
table. This was great news because it was one of the
restaurants on our "must eat at" list. So on Sunday we got
all dressed up, and while I was waiting for Cyd to "put on
the finishing touches" I lit a Habana Punch Punch. She was
done in short order, and we arrive at Emeril's in time for
our 8pm reservation. There was a line ahead of us, and I
could hear people asking for a table with the Maitre'd
replying that the restaurant was book solid for dinner for
weeks to come. This made me a bit nervous, and I was hopeful
that our reservations were in order. Finally the moment of
truth came, when I said, "Saka for two at 8?", to which I
received, "Oh yes Mr. Saka, we have been waiting on you!"
with a smile.

The Maitre'd, began to escort us into the dining areas when
I asked, "Is it okay if I keep my cigar?" and again I heard
a sweet reply, "Absolutely Mr. Saka and it smells
fantastic." Whew! This guy so far was two for two and
batting strong. "Mr. Saka you can select any table you
wish..." I noticed two fantastic tables in the back corner
of the Smoking area, one with a reserved sign on it, and I
pointed in that general direction. He led us over to the
open table adding, "Sir if you would like you can have this
reserved table." I replied with a thank you, a tubed Habana
RyJ, and a newly printed Grant as he moved the reserved sign
to the other table and sat us in the primo spot. "I hope you
enjoy your meal and your cigar sir, if you need anything at
all please do not hesitate to ask."

"Was that a great Maitre'd or what? I must be in heaven!",
fills my conscience. Anyhow the menu was so spectacular that
we found it impossible to decide, and with the assistance of
our wait staff we opted for the "Chef's Tasting" which
wasn't on the menu. Basically it was 7 separate small
courses of different specialty items from the menu, and each
course was paired with different wine that compliment the
food. Once the first course hit the table, it never stopped
coming so I had left my half smoked cigar resting in the
ashtray waiting for a lull in the food.

During Course 3, I see this incredible statuesque blond
poured into the tightest of dresses approaching us. She
appears to be about 5'9" plus heels, short cropped sassy
blond hair, and sporting a pair of breasts that easily cost
$10,000 or more in Beverly Hills. All of a sudden from
behind her I see her escort, and it is none other than Tony
Curtis. As the Maitre'd seats them at the newly reserved
table beside us I can't help but wonder exactly how old is
Tony and damn life must be good for him. The wait staff pour
over him, it is obvious he is a semi-regular.

After our fifth course the lull I had been waiting for
occurred, and I relit my half smoked Punch Punch. Damn this
cigar is perfect, and I find myself really relishing in how
its flavors are blending with the spicy cajun feast we are
eating. Of course since everyone in the restaurant is
staring to catch a glimpse of Tony put a shrimp in his mouth
beside us, I witness a few disgruntled looks from those who
disapprove of my cigar. Mentally I begin to brace myself for
one of them to complain. But instead it turns out that Tony
is talking to his waitress first, and I can overhear
snippets of the conversation, "Cigar... bad smell... can he
smoke that in here?", but I can't hear her replies. Before I
know it his entire wait staff is at his table side,
including the wait captain, and the Maitre'd. Their voices
are slightly louder:

Tony: "The cigar smoke is bothering <date's name> and
ruining her meal."

Maitre'd: "I understand Mr. Curtis, please allow us to
reseat you..."

Tony: "Why should I move? Tell him to put that cigar
out."

Maitre'd: "Mr. Curtis we can not do that, he is in the
smoking section and Mr. Saka is very important
to the casino. He is welcome to smoke his
cigar in here..."

Tony: <slight groan>

Maitre'd: "Please Sir, let us move you to a table where
you will feel more comfortable..."

WOW! I can't believe they are going to actually make Tony
Curtis move rather than ask me to put my cigar out! Is this
like the ultimate cigar friendly restaurant or what?!?! And
I was completely dumbfounded by that "Mr. Saka is very
important to the Casino" part, as it was a total lie. I mean
I gambled there a little, but nothing worthy of being
treated so well. Man, this Punch Punch was tasting like you
wouldn't believe!

Anyhow, instantly I leaned over and spoke, "Excuse me
gentlemen, I apologize, but I couldn't help but overhear. I
have no problem whatsoever with putting my cigar out,
honestly, I couldn't enjoy it knowing it bothered you." You
could see the instant relief on both the Maitre'd and Tony's
faces. Of course a series of thank you's and polite banter
followed.

Kudos to Emeril's and the MGM Grand! I promise to return,
and with a far larger bankroll. Never in my life have I ever
exacted such pleasure from putting out a cigar... :>

Steve Saka


MCS

[SeanGAR]

I've got it way worse .....


My neighbors come over and smoke my COROs.

[Gophernut]

That is one cool story!

[blugill]

What a great story!

Excellent service for sure!!

I tell you the small, simple pleasures of owning your own house are amazing. In just about an hour when it cools down I plan on dragging my lawn chair out and firing up a nice smoke. No one will hassle me about it, my closest neighbor is across the street.

This kind of freedom is what the founding fathers had in mind no doubt!

[BagfullofPings]

Originally Posted by Texan in Mexico

If your post is directed at one of us in particular I would enjoy reading your reasoning and how your proposal is more likely to produce the desired result.

I'm not directing my opinion to any particular members. Most likely, nobody is going to change her views. Even if pro2625 corrupts her son. She is not going to change pro's opinion. Now they are at the crossroads. They can just DEAL WITH IT, or they can escalate their fued. If they create a fued, there will be a winner and a loser. Is it worth that? NO!! My old platoon Sgt. use to say "Shut The F*%k Up And Drive On". That is my moto (sp). Unless somebody is my friend, I don't really give a f%*k about anybody's opinion. If you my friend, we can always agree to disagree.

[dabigdog]

Originally Posted by blugill

What a great story!

Excellent service for sure!!

I tell you the small, simple pleasures of owning your own house are amazing. In just about an hour when it cools down I plan on dragging my lawn chair out and firing up a nice smoke. No one will hassle me about it, my closest neighbor is across the street.

This kind of freedom is what the founding fathers had in mind no doubt!

I agree. Great story !! And I'm smoking a RYJ Short Churchill in my back yard as I type