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papajohn67 · 08-13-2008, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BagfullofPings

I'm not directing my opinion to any particular members. Most likely, nobody is going to change her views. Even if pro2625 corrupts her son. She is not going to change pro's opinion. Now they are at the crossroads. They can just DEAL WITH IT, or they can escalate their fued. If they create a fued, there will be a winner and a loser. Is it worth that? NO!! My old platoon Sgt. use to say "Shut The F*%k Up And Drive On". That is my moto (sp). Unless somebody is my friend, I don't really give a f%*k about anybody's opinion. If you my friend, we can always agree to disagree.

And I have a hunch who may come out the winner. IMHO try and make nice first, I can't see pissing on yourself unless you have another place to move that will allow you to smoke on your deck or patio.

InBetweenTheLines · 08-13-2008, 08:41 PM

Frankly, I'm surprised she can smell the cigar over all the smog

Your doing her a favor, at her old age she souldn't be outside breathing that stuff in, the smog I mean

BagfullofPings · 08-13-2008, 08:43 PM

pro2625,

Does your complex allow smoking?

If yes, YOU WIN!!

If no, YOU LOSE!!

bobarian · 08-13-2008, 08:52 PM

I see no reason or benefit to being aggressive in this situation. It is also not likely you are going to "convert" them with niceties. Their choice to close the door and windows is not likely an act of hostility. If you live below them, you would likely hear the door closing whether or not it was due to your cigar smoking.

Being openly hostile as many have suggested, will only lead to bad thing for you. There are many more non-cigar smokers who could easily get together and petition the landlord not to renew your lease. Let them express their dissatisfaction with your habit in the way they choose. Their actions currently have no effect on your behavior so be happy and have a smoke.

outlawhendrix · 08-13-2008, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pro2625

So I lived in the same apartments in anaheim going on 4 years. My fiancee and I have seen neighbors come and go...

About a month ago a new neighbor moves in the apartment above us and everytime I go to light up a stogie and start smoking it they will slam their glass sliding door shut and all their windows too.

The funniest thing about it is they will re open the sliding door to see if they can still smell smoke many times while Im smoking (usually an hour or two) and if they still smell smoke they will slam the door shut again.

Anyone else have problems like this with neighbors or other people in general?

Just start listining to death metal as loud as possible and they will stop caring about the smoke.

LANTSailor · 08-13-2008, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BagfullofPings

pro2625,

Does your complex allow smoking?

If yes, YOU WIN!!

If no, YOU LOSE!!

He might win the smoking point, but once you start a feud things generally escalate.

Piss off your neighbors in community housing and they'll watch like hawks to document a string of relatively minor breaches of contract. Those'll get you characterized as a "problem tenant" and can get you evicted or the management simply doesn't renew your lease. The more people you piss off or your neighbors know, the worse it gets and the faster it goes.

Belmont, CA has already banned smoking in apts and condos and CA in general isn't all that friendly to smoking to begin with. So, you can take on the neighbors, win this minor battle and still lose the war.

I think it would be far better to talk to the neighbors and see if there isn't a compromise possible.

kansashat · 08-13-2008, 09:20 PM

About 15-20 years ago, when I was in my mid-thirties, I was single & ran a local party bar. My life was dominated by approx 3 priorities; work, partying, & women. Despite my lifestyle, I maintained an amicable relationship with my neighbors.

Although my name was on the lease, I had to take in roomates to afford my fast lane lifestyle.

One of them took to parking in front of the elderly ladie's house across the street. I honestly hadn't noticed, or hadn't thought about it.

One day the elderly ladie's daughter approached me on the street. She told me a story of how her mother was elderly, in ill health, & how they tried to keep the parking space in front of her house clear for transportation pick ups & possible ambulance parking.

I told her I was certainly sorry & that she didn't have to worry about me parking in front of her house. She informed me that my roomate did & I told her I would talk to him about it. She then informed me that she already had & he had told her to "f*ck off."

I was completely mortified to learn of his insensitivity, crudeness to a neighbor, & my direct relationship to a situation that caused my neighbor discomfort. The next time I talked to my roomate, I was on him like stink on an outhouse corncob.

We all have rights of course, but I would council our responses to be fueled by reason & goodwill. Try to look at the other person's perspective before we let the testosterone take over. I am with Texan in Mexico & MCS on this one.

mosesbotbol · 08-13-2008, 09:23 PM

You should start cleaning your guns outside and give him a wave.

I know my smoking must be a little unpleasent for my neighbors, but I never complain about their things I do not like, so fair is fair.

You have to have respect and little communication on both sides goes a long way.

doctorcue · 08-13-2008, 09:26 PM

This is the way I look at it. I live in an Apartment therefore I know I can't do everything that I can in or out a house. Music can't be as loud. I can't be as loud. And I can't smoke without irritating some people. So I try to smoke as little as possible. Sure, it sucks, but I find other ways to smoke. I'll go for a walk with a cigar. I'll go to the B&M. I'll hang a buddies backyard. I'll go to a HERF.

I realize that by living in an apartment I can't have everything. Everyone is different and most people don't like smoking. Yeah it sucks but you can't change their opinion. You don't have to quit but don't light up like a chimney. Treat your neighbors well and most of the time they'll do the same.

DonnieW · 08-13-2008, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigVito

what if they are ugly?

Sometimes you gotta take one for the team BigVito... for the team.

seegarfan · 08-13-2008, 09:50 PM

I can see a little of the passive side of this, but in all honesty, not much. And I will tell you why:

As cigars smokers we have been on the whipping post for far too long. I'll even go so far to say that being passive to the anti smoking is representative of a far larger problem of the whole political correct, nanny state that infects a large segment of our society. Look at what has happened to Europe in it's appeasement of Islam. Think that's a stretch? I don't because not standing up for your core beliefs is what we are talking about here. I, for one am tired of certain groups telling me what to believe, say and write so as not to offend anyone. Well, I find that offensive.

This is America -Land of the free (used to be) home of the brave (fewer all the time)

As for Saka's story, he's free do to as he saw fit. However, as a cigar smoker, I say he hurts our rights by caving in and putting out his cigar.

If it was a smoking area of the restaurant - LET THEM MOVE. I would have enjoyed nothing more than seeing some stuffed shirt who is used to always getting his way, to have to suck it up and pack up his plastic, store bought trophy babe AND MOVE!

Just my

Mark

pro2625 · 08-13-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by seegarfan

I can see a little of the passive side of this, but in all honesty, not much. And I will tell you why:

As cigars smokers we have been on the whipping post for far too long. I'll even go so far to say that being passive to the anti smoking is representative of a far larger problem of the whole political correct, nanny state that infects a large segment of our society. Look at what has happened to Europe in it's appeasement of Islam. Think that's a stretch? I don't because not standing up for your core beliefs is what we are talking about here. I, for one am tired of certain groups telling me what to believe, say and write so as not to offend anyone. Well, I find that offensive.

This is America -Land of the free (used to be) home of the brave (fewer all the time)

As for Saka's story, he's free do to as he saw fit. However, as a cigar smoker, I say he hurts our rights by caving in and putting out his cigar.

If it was a smoking area of the restaurant - LET THEM MOVE. I would have enjoyed nothing more than seeing some stuffed shirt who is used to always getting his way, to have to suck it up and pack up his plastic, store bought trophy babe AND MOVE!

Just my

Mark

I concur with you 100%.....Im here in kommifornia standing up for my gun rights everyday there is no way I wont stand up for my smoking rights also...

M1903A1 · 08-13-2008, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigVito

what if they are ugly?

That's what

is for.

BagfullofPings · 08-13-2008, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seegarfan

I can see a little of the passive side of this, but in all honesty, not much. And I will tell you why:

As cigars smokers we have been on the whipping post for far too long. I'll even go so far to say that being passive to the anti smoking is representative of a far larger problem of the whole political correct, nanny state that infects a large segment of our society. Look at what has happened to Europe in it's appeasement of Islam. Think that's a stretch? I don't because not standing up for your core beliefs is what we are talking about here. I, for one am tired of certain groups telling me what to believe, say and write so as not to offend anyone. Well, I find that offensive.

This is America -Land of the free (used to be) home of the brave (fewer all the time)

As for Saka's story, he's free do to as he saw fit. However, as a cigar smoker, I say he hurts our rights by caving in and putting out his cigar.

If it was a smoking area of the restaurant - LET THEM MOVE. I would have enjoyed nothing more than seeing some stuffed shirt who is used to always getting his way, to have to suck it up and pack up his plastic, store bought trophy babe AND MOVE!

Just my

Mark

Well said!!