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This is a discussion on Illusione and Rev. Jim Jones within the General Cigar Discussion forums, part of the The Cigar Lounges at Puff category; Looks like he is trying to pull a marilyn manson.....Next thing you know people will die and they will blame ...
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Looks like he is trying to pull a marilyn manson.....Next thing you know people will die and they will blame this guy for his marketing
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![]() The marketing is pretty odd and I guess I've had my head in the sand because I never noticed. Then again I generally don't look at cigar adverts or most mags.
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This thread proves the marketing works.
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I did not know the entire Jim Jones story. I just read up on it, and it made me choke. I won't be buying any Illusione products.
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A horse is a horse...
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Crazy. However, I think it's all an act.
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Oh, I agree. I've always thought that there is no such thing as bad publicity becasue many, many will see it. Kinda like the anti-smoking TRUTH ad campaign. It's a way for the baccy companies to advertise when they are legally not supposed to, on tv.
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My personal feeling is that he is going to laugh himself right out of business.
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An ass, not a fish
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The problem with the marketing is that Americans tend to be judgmental, (Sorry, Boomer, that's life). Americans also tend to react with their pocket books. If one in ten gets the advertising, then nine are NOT going to, and that translates into dollars lost. Seems a strange way to make money, potentially driving off 90% of customers! As an independent, self employed businessman, I tend to think in terms of building customer base, not alienating it. Regardless of the judgments here, the common sense from a business point seems to have been poorly thought out.
For the record, I was alive and tuned into world events when that ashant did the koolaid trip. There is nothing good about the event that makes it worthy of use as a positive marketing strategy. It was and still is a SAD, SICK commentary on the depths some will go to in the name of religion and self glory. Jim Jones is as much an example of a false prophet then as the muij are today. |
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What Jim Jones did was such an evil horrifying few moments in history. We all should learn from those moments and not allow this dude or anyone else to use those moments to poke fun at those he can manipulate with such ads.
Screw him and his cigars, he will get none of my business.... Maybe his next ads will in fact carry the 9/11 theme, then what? we bow to him more for his creativity???? ...not me ![]() Too Judgmental???????? He was a mass murderer for god sakes.....
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I'm with you NCRM, NOT FUNNY and wrong. And I have a twisted personality, so this is bad.
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I need a beer
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Also, with all this talk about the end of the world and mass killings makes me kind of hesitant about smoking his cigars. Who know's what might be in there.
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Meh, had my first Illusione lancero over the weekend. For what it cost, for how much I enjoyed it and now this marketing, I think I'll pass on future purchases of the product.
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It has been my experience that a good cigar sells itself, not some marketing ploy. It also helps if the manufacturer is seen as an upstanding person in the cigar world. Word of mouth, especially on forums such as this, goes a long way to promote a good cigar or product. Yes, we are all talking about his ad campaign and his cigars and giving him some publicity, but at the end of the day, he can only survive if he makes sales. Personally, I wont buy anything from this guy based on his insensitive and tasteless ads.
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