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NCRadioMan · 08-25-2008, 01:18 PM

I recently saw an Illusione ad in Cigar Press mag that featured the Rev. Jim Jones. I did some searching and found that Dion(the owner of the brand) was using the same wallpaper at IPCPR this year. You can see it just over his shoulder. I like the Illusione line but this kinda thing turns me off to the product. Am I alone in feeling this way?

The writer of the article that this pic came from summed up my feelings:

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(Sorry, killing reporters, which Jones’ people did – Don Harris of NBC News for one – and a Congressman along with nearly 1,000 people including 276 children is NOT funny.) Dion may make some good cigars, but he went way over the line on this occasion and I, for one, will not spend any money on a business that tries to capitalize on a tragedy. It takes what happened at Jonestown lightly and uses it for marketing.

I know some younger folks may not know the story, so here it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

UPHOTO · 08-25-2008, 01:23 PM

I just talked to him about this a few weeks ago.....

Some people are going to get it and others won't. His feelings on it is that he wants to be different, looking for that edgier crowd that can laugh at something like his add.

"Taste the coolaid" is what he told me.

He's mocking the hype that is going on, he's telling people to jump on the bandwagon and buy his cigars.

It's all in fun and yes VERY edgy. He showed me another idea he has and it will ruffle MANY feathers of people here if it goes to print.

awsmith4 · 08-25-2008, 01:26 PM

Edgy and tasteless are too different things imho

With that being said, I hate communism but continue to seek out Cuban cigars

wintersway · 08-25-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by NCRadioMan

I recently saw an Illusione ad in Cigar Press mag that featured the Rev. Jim Jones. I did some searching and found that Dion(the owner of the brand) was using the same wallpaper at IPCPR this year. You can see it just over his shoulder. I like the Illusione line but this kinda thing turns me off to the product. Am I alone in feeling this way?

The writer of the article that this pic came from summed up my feelings:

I know some younger folks may not know the story, so here it is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

Yeah, that and this interview helped me to decide not to give them my cash:

http://www.stogiefresh.com/journal/C...ne_Cigars.html

CigarGal · 08-25-2008, 01:28 PM

It isn't edgy-it is sick.

NCRadioMan · 08-25-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UPHOTO

It's all in fun and yes VERY edgy.

Yep, mass murder is tons of fun.

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Originally Posted by UPHOTO

He showed me another idea he has and it will ruffle MANY feathers of people here if it goes to print.

Let me guess, 911 victims.

oldforge · 08-25-2008, 01:30 PM

Sometimes "edgy" humor is fine among close friends--it just dosen't play very well in the public arena.

My advice--drop Jim Jones and the Koolaid.

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Originally Posted by UPHOTO

I just talked to him about this a few weeks ago.....

Some people are going to get it and others won't. His feelings on it is that he wants to be different, looking for that edgier crowd that can laugh at something like his add.

"Taste the coolaid" is what he told me.

He's mocking the hype that is going on, he's telling people to jump on the bandwagon and buy his cigars.

It's all in fun and yes VERY edgy. He showed me another idea he has and it will ruffle MANY feathers of people here if it goes to print.

Jonesee · 08-25-2008, 01:36 PM

In corporate America we all laugh at "drinking the kool-aid" and it has become a catch phrase for believing corporate BS hype. But, I wouldn't use it as my advertising hook. I get it, but it didn't set the hook to buy the product. His advertising company was better at their sell, than developing his.

Sisyphys · 08-25-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by oldforge

Sometimes "edgy" humor is fine among close friends--it just dosen't play very well in the public arena.

My advice--drop Jim Jones and the Koolaid.

I agree. For every person the 'gets it' and thinks it's edgy and funny, there will be 10 that think it's over the line.

Doesn't seem like good business sense to me.

mikeyj23 · 08-25-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wintersway

Yeah, that and this interview helped me to decide not to give them my cash:

http://www.stogiefresh.com/journal/C...ne_Cigars.html

Thanks for the link.

"DOC: As of today, you have 10 different cigars in your lineup, with unusual names like “888,” “4/2g” and “cg4.” Can you give us a quick summary of your cigars and some insight on what the names mean?

DION: They all relate in some aspects to conspiracy and world domination via our outer-space savior. All of the information is out there; you just have to drill for it. [Doc notes: I have been “drilling” for this information since having this interview and so far, I have broken three drill bits!]"

That gives me the willies.

rockyr · 08-25-2008, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by wintersway

Yeah, that and this interview helped me to decide not to give them my cash:

http://www.stogiefresh.com/journal/C...ne_Cigars.html

I like this part of the interview "The world as we know it will end or, at the very least, depart dimensions in late December 2012."

Seriously?!

bazookajoe · 08-25-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by UPHOTO

...Some people are going to get it and others won't. His feelings on it is that he wants to be different, looking for that edgier crowd that can laugh at something like his add...

It appears from the interview referenced above that this is more than an "edgy" marketing plan. This dude is messed up.