Craigslist - Too good to be true ?

[Pipe&Cigar]

Originally Posted by Jay Hemingway

i wouldn't mess with it unless he provided pictures of the smokes. i only view posts on craigslist that have pic's. just makes it safer for me as a buyer. if he really has the davidoffs and he is serious about selling them, i am sure he shouldn't have any problems providing pictures.
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if he says "i can't provide pic's because i do not know how to upload them or put them on the internet, etc", than go to his house with:

A. a large gun
B. a large bat
or
C. a large friend

I would Say go with Both A and C!

Sounds like he would be willing to meet, have a look at the merchandise and the Seller. You should be able to get a feel if things are not up to snuff! Still bring A and C!

Good luck and let us know how it turns out, but move quickly!

[Snake Hips]

This sounds pretty curious. Ask for pictures and ask for technicals using terminology a cigar smoker (particularly a Davidoff collector) should know (blend, vitola, wrapper, etc.). If he appears to not know what he's talking about, I'd be wary. In either case, I'd meet him - that's the best way to make a judgement. You can see him and his behavior in person as well as the items in question.

If you find out that these are legit with a clean background and you go for it, I'd be interested in buying a couple There's only one shop in this damned state that has Davidoffs, and I want to try some.

Good luck

[sonick]

VERY interesting.... and odd....

I just spoke with him. The cigars are well-stored, he knows all the nuances and such of the blends, BUT.. "the cigars don't have bands or boxes" because of some sort of insurance payoff can't re-sell something insurance something loss recoup something something something. lol.

BUT..... he's like you can come pick any size any sick and if you know Davidoff, you'll know well that it's a davidoff. Which is true. Thing is, I'm NOT an expert and may get snowed. I DO smoke plenty of davidoff, but I am not an expert by any stretch, so I'm not sure what to look for.

He even gave me the name of two reputable businesses that looked at the collection to purchase it, but didn't buy it because of the lack of bands and customer wariness. He said if I ask about the collection, they wil verify the authenticity.

BUT, he's very open to testing and validation and such and so forth, and this is why this price is low. They're all aged at 70% for 6+ years. He also has 12 opus x churchills that are so old the cellophane is brown. WITH bands. obviously not as cheap.

I don't know enough about davidoff to prevent myself from getting ripped off. If anyone has any tips or can make any sense of why insurance claims would result in sticks without bands, i'm all ears.

He was very charismatic which scares me a bit. Not in a new car sales man way though. He was very take it or leave it.... feel free to smoke one of each size you're buying to verify. He gave me his location; it is in a very rich area of Scottsdale.

Odd. Just, odd.

[sonick]

If anyone from the valley wants to go over there together and it turns out they're legit, maybe we could combine funds to get a better deal....

have 5-6 botl's show up there..

[levinmiester]

i'm surprised no one has said group buy yet lol

[Deucer]

Maybe he's trying to selloff cigars that he declared as an insurance loss? Is that the situation he was describing?

[Warren]

No bands = No buy

That sounds like a HUGE red flag to me.

[sonick]

Originally Posted by Deucer

Maybe he's trying to selloff cigars that he declared as an insurance loss? Is that the situation he was describing?

It was something similar to that..... I think.... he fuzzed over it in such a way that only an underwriter would understand it, or it was complete gibberish.

I've thought about it over a GENUINE Davidoff short perfecto while floating about the pool, and i'm thinking Warren is right; no bands no buy. Just too much opportunity to get burned.

There are more variables in the equation than there are values...... not solvable... I'm thinking no go.....

Then again, if any Phoenix Metro Davidoff Maestros are on the forums here that can 100% ID a Davidoff, I still might be game...

[papajohn67]

Hell if I was down there and really interested I'd pick one out at random and smoke it. Bands, no bands if it met my taste test and the price was right I'd buy them.

[mike607]

Originally Posted by papajohn67

Hell if I was down there and really interested I'd pick one out at random and smoke it. Bands, no bands if it met my taste test and the price was right I'd buy them.

I second that notion, $2-$5 a stick, those are gas station swiser prices.........

[mdman]

fake or stolen