...place for a good smoke?

[MikeP]

I started smoking cigars in highschool as well. Back then my parents would have disapproved had they known about my new hobby. My father is a doctor and has always obviously been rather concerned with health in general. But now my father also enjoys a cigar and some scotch almost on a weekly basis. Parents tend to mellow over time as we get older - so you never know what the future holds. Maybe you and your dad on the deck enjoying some fine adult beverages and fine smokes as well.

In any event, I always liked going out for a long drive and enjoying a cigar. Of course, that is weather permitting. Otherwise, you might just need to find a local smoke shop. As far as the smell is concerned, I think your stuck.

[thunderbucks]

Thanks for the help guys...I appreciate it.

As far as the smell thing...I mainly asked because growing up I'd always seen guys smoking cigars on the gulf course, but they never "wreaked" of it, and I always wondered how.

[King James]

Im 18 right now too and in a similar problem. My parents dont care but i have to smoke outside and it is pretty cold out. You can try to find a cigar shop you can smoke on or just wear layers. A way to get rid of the smell is where old clothes on top of your nice stuff and shed that when your done with your smoke. I always wear a sweatshirt and then just throw it in the wash when I'm done and it helps with the smell. Welcome to the forums, there is alot of good info here.

[ATLHARP]

Originally Posted by thunderbucks

Well, no, I don't care that much at all what other people think, except for my parents to an extent.



That's the thing....in conjunction with what croatan was saying...my parents aren't big on smoking at all. My dad doesn't smoke, and so he says, he's never smoked anything. When they found out (about 6-9 months ago) that I smoke(d) cigars, we sat down and had a family talk about it, that kind of thing. The typical "it's not worth the risk", etc. etc. But it's also frustrating, because it's like half of their arguments are ignorant--my dad kept insisting on how I could get lung cancer. I mean, I suppose it's possible, but everytime I told him I don't inhale, that didn't matter. All the smoke apparently still gets to my lungs. I mean, yeah I know my risk of mouth cancer goes up, but it's worth it to me.

Up until recently, I've only smoked Phillies (which I refuse to smoke these days), Black & Milds, Swisher Sweets, etc. Now that I turned 18 (a whopping 4 days ago), I can just grab whatever I want from any local humidors.

Seems like a cool place here...I hope to stay a while.

Hey Brother,

I still live at home (Debt repayment- price to pay for a Bachelor's in History) and I hear nagging on a daily basis for either the amount of $$ I spend on Cigars or that I smoke cigars period. Look, you're 18 do what you please and if it becomes an issue and they don't like it cool it till you move out to college.

easy peezey, japaneezy!


ATL

[oddball]

Thunderbucks-

I'm more than twice your age and I have to smoke outside, even though my wife likes cigars also. Let's just say it is a mutual decision to keep it outdoors. I wear stinky sweats outside and steal a quick smoke in the cold and rain; I CAN'T WAIT FOR WARMER WEATHER.

I'm trying not to be a "bad influence" on my 7 year-old son; he's not crazy about the smoking. So we don't flaunt it in front of him. You have to realize that smoking ANYTHING is not exactly the "correct" activity to indulge in our "free society". Sometimes I think I'm the only guy in town with a cigar sticking outta my mouth...

I agree with the other posts; respect the parents wishes.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by thunderbucks

Well, no, I don't care that much at all what other people think, except for my parents to an extent.

That's the thing....in conjunction with what croatan was saying...my parents aren't big on smoking at all. My dad doesn't smoke, and so he says, he's never smoked anything. When they found out (about 6-9 months ago) that I smoke(d) cigars, we sat down and had a family talk about it, that kind of thing. The typical "it's not worth the risk", etc. etc. But it's also frustrating, because it's like half of their arguments are ignorant--my dad kept insisting on how I could get lung cancer. I mean, I suppose it's possible, but everytime I told him I don't inhale, that didn't matter. All the smoke apparently still gets to my lungs. I mean, yeah I know my risk of mouth cancer goes up, but it's worth it to me.

Up until recently, I've only smoked Phillies (which I refuse to smoke these days), Black & Milds, Swisher Sweets, etc. Now that I turned 18 (a whopping 4 days ago), I can just grab whatever I want from any local humidors.

Seems like a cool place here...I hope to stay a while.

My eldest turned 18 this week. She's not likely to become a smoker. I just began cigars last year at the age of 42. Never smoked until then except a few experimental cigarettes (which failed the exam) and stuff I won't discuss with her until SHE's a parent.

I know parents who have lost their kids to cancer and losing a child is about the worst pain there is. If you're 18 that means they're probably around my age and expect to have another 3-4 decades in them. The idea, however improbable, that they might see you hospitalized for this new habit runs them if they're worth a damn as loving parents.

There's also the concern that if you're into cigars now then you'll be into booze when you're old enough, too. Teens who are eager smoke and drink are not quite what parents aspire to raise. I doubt my parents would see my having a 2-3 cigar/week and 2-3 drink/week pattern would be concerned about my longterm health.

I'm just rambling on as a dad of a kid your age. It's hard letting go. If a kid is a bum it's much easier to shrug and say "Hey, it's your life. Now that you're 18 I'm off the hook."

Keep in mind that if you are living at home or are getting supported at school, your parents make the rules for everybody under their protective umbrella. And you may not be able to get to "get out of the rain" more than a couple of times if they're patient with you, but it'll help if you try to put yourself in their shoes and imagine yourself with an 18-year-old who's just aching to smoke cigars.

The hard part in life is keeping your excesses in moderation.

If you're the kind of person who is looking at a cigar a week "treat", that's one thing, but the chemicals in teens' heads aren't notoriously famous for the best judgement.

For what it's worth, I'm kind of glad I started herfing in my 40's and not earlier. It reduces the chance of cumulative damage.

[thunderbucks]

Originally Posted by Aaron

My eldest turned 18 this week. She's not likely to become a smoker. I just began cigars last year at the age of 42. Never smoked until then except a few experimental cigarettes (which failed the exam) and stuff I won't discuss with her until SHE's a parent.

I know parents who have lost their kids to cancer and losing a child is about the worst pain there is. If you're 18 that means they're probably around my age and expect to have another 3-4 decades in them. The idea, however improbable, that they might see you hospitalized for this new habit runs them if they're worth a damn as loving parents.

There's also the concern that if you're into cigars now then you'll be into booze when you're old enough, too. Teens who are eager smoke and drink are not quite what parents aspire to raise. I doubt my parents would see my having a 2-3 cigar/week and 2-3 drink/week pattern would be concerned about my longterm health.

I'm just rambling on as a dad of a kid your age. It's hard letting go. If a kid is a bum it's much easier to shrug and say "Hey, it's your life. Now that you're 18 I'm off the hook."

Keep in mind that if you are living at home or are getting supported at school, your parents make the rules for everybody under their protective umbrella. And you may not be able to get to "get out of the rain" more than a couple of times if they're patient with you, but it'll help if you try to put yourself in their shoes and imagine yourself with an 18-year-old who's just aching to smoke cigars.

The hard part in life is keeping your excesses in moderation.

If you're the kind of person who is looking at a cigar a week "treat", that's one thing, but the chemicals in teens' heads aren't notoriously famous for the best judgement.

For what it's worth, I'm kind of glad I started herfing in my 40's and not earlier. It reduces the chance of cumulative damage.

I suppose that's understandable...my parents are just shy of 50. As far as stepping into their shoes...that's hard. I've always been one (and by always, I mean within the last couple years once I've learned enough to form my own opinions) to think that people should do what they want when they have the capability to make sound decisions (thus my smoking, especially at 1.

As far as frequency of how often I smoke...I might smoke a couple cigars in one night out of a week, while I might not smoke one for several weeks. I guess 2-3 average a month though.

[adamh_25_]

as for the golfing thing....the last few weeks ive spent on the golf course, i smoked...yes let the flaming begin...swisher sweet little cigars. mind you they are small (cigarrette sized) so the smoke isnt much. But when i went to my girlfriends house immediately after, she didnt say she could smell it(she doesnt mind my smoking little cigars though shed prefer me to stop the gas stationers...same as the parents. So I would say that its probably the wind combined with the smells of outside that cover the smoke. It doesnt get as much time to absorb into the clothes as it would if you were in an enclosed room/car. .
Adam

[Franksmith]

Originally Posted by icehog3

Smoke weed instead?

Just kidding...you're 18, you're legal to smoke. I assume your parents don't approve. Maybe you should just respect their wishes and wait til you head out to college or move out before you get to deep into the cigars.

You are such an old fart!

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by adamh_25_

I am quite lucky. I'm 20 and didnt really get started smoking till late 19. But at first my mom really wasnt happy. Especially since it was gas station crap(in my eyes more dangerous and addicting). Now that I smoke nice stuff she doesnt really mind too much. Sorta surprises me a bit really. Like when she let me use her credit card to buy my 100ct humidor(I had to pay her back of course haha). She thought it looked really cool.

Women LOVE containers. Shoes and purses NEVER are part of the "Do I look fat in this?" siren that is perpetually going off in their heads.

Go over to Cigar Afficionado and get some of the covers of the gorgeous women your mom would know: Raquel Welch, Demi Moore, Anne Archer etc. These aren't ladies who are herfin' daily but at least they have a sense of enjoyment.

If a cigar can be perceived by your mom as something akin to champagne and enjoyed about as often by her, you're in the clear.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by thunderbucks

I suppose that's understandable...my parents are just shy of 50. As far as stepping into their shoes...that's hard. I've always been one (and by always, I mean within the last couple years once I've learned enough to form my own opinions) to think that people should do what they want when they have the capability to make sound decisions (thus my smoking, especially at 1.

As far as frequency of how often I smoke...I might smoke a couple cigars in one night out of a week, while I might not smoke one for several weeks. I guess 2-3 average a month though.

That last paragraph is key to your argument.

But "doing what you want" while you're still a dependent doesn't work, even if you're older than 18. Dependence while still an adult involves some compromises by the dependent.

If you can convince your folks that you're cool with a cigar-a-week cap and you aren't getting in trouble with other substances, you'll have more of an argument. But heaven help you if you breach that trust.

They may be pleased if you're chillin' with a legal quality stogie for a couple of hours than risking your post-college career with illegal stuff.

My folks were happy I went to college in Manhattan because it was IMPOSSIBLE for students to drive home drunk after a party. Nobody had or wanted cars. When we wanted to go to McSorley's, 7-8 of us would pile into a Checker Cab and split the fare and leave a big tip in both directions. Back then (early 80's) it was cheaper and safer than taking the subway. It saddens me that there are no more Checkers in NYC. That's just wrong.

As a 43-year-old who is grateful to have survived college and who has daughters ages 18, 16, 14 and 12 and sons 8 and 3 (no, I will NOT post photos of my girls!), I cannot emphasize strongly enough that heaven help you if you breach that trust.

[thunderbucks]

Originally Posted by Aaron

That last paragraph is key to your argument.

If you can convince your folks that you're cool with a cigar-a-week cap and you aren't getting in trouble with other substances, you'll have more of an argument. But heaven help you if you breach that trust.

They may be pleased if you're chillin' with a legal quality stogie for a couple of hours than risking your post-college career with illegal stuff.

As a 43-year-old who is grateful to have survived college and who has daughters ages 18, 16, 14 and 12 and sons 8 and 3 (no, I will NOT post photos of my girls!), I cannot emphasize strongly enough that heaven help you if you breach that trust.

The thing is, to them, a cigar a week is seemingly too much, and whenever my dad hears/knows of me smoking he gets all..."dissappointed" I guess is the best way to put it. He gets this somber mood, and is just quiet and put off for a couple hours.

I've thought that like you, that I'm not out getting high every week or shooting up heroine. I just find smoking a cigar relaxing and tasty, and like I was reading in another thread, it consumes most of my mental energy.

Heyyy, you have an 18 y/o daughter? Eh? haha just kiddin' with ya.

[Mister Moo]

Dear 18 & 19 Year Old Children Amongst Us:

First off, I honor you for being here - it means you can read and write. This is good.

Second -Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong. I am very old and very wise - sort of like an unnatural, demonic mixture of Al Bundy and Yoda. I see you are here, asking about the ways and means to smoke cigars, in a forum that is populated largely (but not exclusively) by adult self-admitted but not whining about it incurable tobacco addicts. We are professionals with much more money than brains, guys with less money than brains, a few with no money and no brains (you know who you are - or would you?) and at least one who is ready to sacrifice his wife for a cigar. There are even civil libertarian types here, ready to hand out their spin on cigars and anything else; the true amongst them will set you free for nearly any action except paying taxes, so do embrace them.

I'm gonna tell you how it is. They're a really nice bunch of ladies and gents here, but being nice doesn't make us smart enough to give you good advice and it certainly doesn't make us care or take responsibility for your best interests when you live with your parents. You'all need to do as your parents wish until you move out. Don't forget what Mark Twain famously said. "When I was 19 I knew my father was the stupidist man alive. When I turned 21, I was amazed how much the old man had learned in just two short years." Go with the old mans advice until you're making decisons in your own house, hole, hovel, tent, bivvy bag or whatever.

If you're under your parents roof you oughta screw the cigars and spend your change on a mountain bike.

[thunderbucks]

I wasn't exactly asking for advice on whether or not I should listen to my parents, I was just seeing how other people compare in their smoking...habits, per se. I was just using that I suppose, to illustrate my curiosity. I'm not going to sit here and say "well I don't give a damn what you say and do whatever I want", nor am I likely to follow every word you all say. Hah, I already have my finances in order. I have to spend my discretionary money on something.

[Mister Moo]

Originally Posted by thunderbucks

I wasn't exactly asking for advice on whether or not I should listen to my parents,

It was just a rant and of no consequence (my inner Al Bundy getting out). Please feel neither adviced nor attacked.

Hah, I already have my finances in order. I have to spend my discretionary money on something.

OK. If you won't buy me a mountain bike then go with case/lots of Fabreeze at Sams Club!