Private Stock (Davidoff 2nds)

[cory76044]

Siepattu has the pics that I bought. I ordered them through Famous. I have had two now and let me tell you, Im very pumped about this Cigar. I Colin is right about it tasting and burning like its big brother. Have fun

[Research-Colin-cl]

Glad I could share what I've learned Cory. What size did you get?

[cory76044]

Robusto, If you cant get them in this size let me know and Ill send some asap. I really want you to try them in the robusto size. What do you think this reminds you of, Not price range but more in flavor. I really want to try more Cigars with the same notes and would like to know what you recommend.

[siepattu-cl]

Originally Posted by siepattu

Also I have seen these sold as 'Davidoffs'

I got these in Petit Coronas vitola today and smoked one right away because the retailer had packaged them really good.

Wov! What a cigar!!! ibble:

Very smooth and tastes exactly like Davidoffs. (To me atleast).
The wrappers had some larger veins and small imperfections but construction was otherwise flawless and the taste heavenly.

I hope they stay on the market and the price doesn't go up. I'm buying the lot! I hope you don't

[siepattu-cl]

Originally Posted by siepattu

Thanks!

So these are the one to get?

Had one of these yesterday.
They taste exactly like the bundled 'Davidoffs'. ibble:

[siepattu-cl]

I smoked one of these today.
To me it seems that all of these I posted tastes the same.
I am ofcourse no expert and have a untrained palate but these are all the same I think, these are in tubes. The color of the wrapper and costruction is the same.

Originally Posted by siepattu

Does anybody have any personal experience with the 3x3 Tubos?

[cory76044]

?????

[siepattu-cl]

:huh:

Originally Posted by cory76044

?????

[Research-Colin-cl]

Are you saying that the tubos taste like the bundles? Are you sure that those are made by Davidoff? What more do you know about the tubos?

[siepattu-cl]

http://www.egars.com/3x3nrobu.html

These seem like the same thing.


And check out this post at cigarrpass.com post by vudu9:

3x3's and 4x4's are blended by Henke and produced in the OK ( Oettinger-Kellner) Cigar Factory next to the Davidoff factory - owned by Davidoff as well. In comparison, Davidoff uses only about 25-30% of the total yearly crop production for Davidoff cigars exclusively in the Davidoff factory. The rest of the tobacco is used at the OK factory for Avo, Zino, Griffin, Paul Garmirian, Cusano, Zino Platinum Scepter and Platinum Crown, Diana Silvius, and anything else that comes out of OK. Henke blends all of the afformentioned brands as well.

http://www.cigarpass.com/forums/inde...2&#entry425842

cupojoes.com advertises them as Davidoffs:
http://www.cupojoes.com/cgi-bin/spgm...item=dav005833

pipesandcigars.com has both 4x4 and 3x3 bundles (Distributed by Davidoff):
http://www.pipesandcigars.com/dabu.html

[magste-cl]

There are, to my knowledge, two types of Private Stock. The standard PS and the PS Medium Filler line.

Before, the PS line used to be pure Davidoff seconds. Now, as far as I understand, it's a brand of its own, rolled specifically to be PS cigars, at the Davidoff factory by inexperienced rollers, using lower grade tobacco (less aged,etc) and not aged or sorted after colour in the factory. They are still hand rolled long-fillers but not any more real seconds of Davidoff. See the first picture. I have found these PS to be a bit too mild and inconsistent lately, especially the no 11.

The PS Medium Fillers (2nd picture) are cigars rolled from scrap tobacco, left over from rolling the real cigars (at the Davidoff factory, and maybe others nowadays, I'm not sure), hence the name medium filler. Not long filler and not short filler. They are also hand rolled and should have the same tobacco used for the premium brands. Medium fillers can't be rolled in the same way as normal hand fillers. To keep the cigar from collapsing, they add an extra half leaf of tobacco in the filler. They also have an Ecuadorian wrapper and binder. I found these pretty good mild smokes a few years ago (haven't tried them lately), especially the panatela.

Maybe the bundles found in Malta are real Davidoff seconds. That would explain the taste difference between them and the current PS line.

[Research-Colin-cl]

THanks for that. I'm a more than a little disappointed though. That first bundle which was unbanded and only in plastic wrap were basically davidoffs. I've recently been smoking the ones with the crappy looking red label and they don't live up to the first bundle but I'll keep at it and hopefully find some better ones. I still need to try a smaller size than the #1 churchills. For those of you who can find the bundles without labels, buy em! I know I will if I find them again.

[magste-cl]

Hi Colin,

As to my understanding, you can probably give up any hope of getting the Private Stocks you have (w the red band) to ever taste like Davidoff's.

Maybe the Medium Fillers could do better, even though they have a different wrapper and binder? They were available at the Davidoff store in Copenhagen a few years ago. If there is a Davidoff in London, maybe they carry them (hidden in a corner...)? As I mentioned above, it's been a few years since I last tried them.

Cheers

Magnus

PS I enjoy your segments on the DWSC

[Research-Colin-cl]

Thanks Magnus,

As for the Davidoff in London, they don't have any of these options. They recommended that I look in the Swiss shops. If I can't find 'em I might have to go back to Malta just for the bundles.

[siepattu-cl]

Originally Posted by Research-Colin

Thanks Magnus,

As for the Davidoff in London, they don't have any of these options. They recommended that I look in the Swiss shops. If I can't find 'em I might have to go back to Malta just for the bundles.

These are unbanded and taste just like the Davidoffs.



You live in the UK so why not order from:
http://www.cigarworld.de/shop/detail...artnr=01171301

PM or email me (you have the address) and beg on your knees and I might play nice and send you a couple of PCs.