Cigar Science w/ Rob XI: Some cigar wrapper basics

[groovy]

now to let it all sink in..................with a nice Dominican

[Craig]

Yes, I'm going to have to study this in more detail.

[ben153]

Great job

[zion698]

Great information Rob!!

[Poisenwood]

This post makes my life so much easier. Thanks!

[Poss253a]

Great post....thanks for the information.

[cody5thou]

Thanks for the pics and the info!

[slkr4life]

Printing....Will go great at the cigar smoking desk in the garage. Thanks!

[vicegrips.ceo.]

thanks for the incredibly thorough report scientician!

[cbs0121]

Great post, the whole series seems very good (I'm new but getting caught up!).

One thing though, Criollo is, to my knowledge, not a Corojo hybrid, at least not a newer one (ie Habana 2000, Corojo 97 or 99). I believe it is a different strain of tobacco, also with roots in Cuba, that was used mostly for filler tobacco. It too has been hybridized (Criollo 9 to make it more resistant to disease.

Speaking of Habana 2000, it's no longer in use in Cuba, but a few cigars outside of there still use it. Gurkha's Master Reserve and Torano 1959 gold, if I'm not mistaken, use Habana 2000 wrapper. It's a hybrid of Corojo and a Cuban cigarette tobacco, Bell 61-10. It is NOT a hybrid of Corojo and Conneticiut seed, as has been reported before. It's fallen out of favor because of fermentation problems and percieved burn issues, though the few H2k cigars I've had burned reasonably well.

[golfcigarjunkie]

Very informative post....thanks Rob

[Doc Stogie Fresh]

Originally Posted by cbs0121

Great post, the whole series seems very good (I'm new but getting caught up!).

One thing though, Criollo is, to my knowledge, not a Corojo hybrid, at least not a newer one (ie Habana 2000, Corojo 97 or 99). I believe it is a different strain of tobacco, also with roots in Cuba, that was used mostly for filler tobacco. It too has been hybridized (Criollo 9 to make it more resistant to disease.

Speaking of Habana 2000, it's no longer in use in Cuba, but a few cigars outside of there still use it. Gurkha's Master Reserve and Torano 1959 gold, if I'm not mistaken, use Habana 2000 wrapper. It's a hybrid of Corojo and a Cuban cigarette tobacco, Bell 61-10. It is NOT a hybrid of Corojo and Conneticiut seed, as has been reported before. It's fallen out of favor because of fermentation problems and percieved burn issues, though the few H2k cigars I've had burned reasonably well.

The H2000 is not used in Cuba because it doesn't grow well there. As you said, the H2000 wrappers grown in Cuba are dull and lifeless and were rejected as a viable strain long ago. However, there are several areas outside of Cuba, Ecuador most notably, where the H2000 grows very well. Besides the two you mentioned, Flor de Gonzalez came out with a 15th Anniversary cigar with an H2000 wrapper that was awesome.

Criollo was developed in 1941 and is a strain of Habanesis, which was Cuba's first standardized black tobacco seed developed in 1907. Through selective breeding, Criollo spawned Corojo in the mid-1940s.

[Cigary]

I obviously have not done enough in my life when it comes to knowing all of the facts concerning my beloved cigars. All I know is that I love them and I can hardly wait until I can grow them in my own backyard. I wonder if they will come in as robustos or churchills? The guy who sold me the cigar seeds said that they will come in as long as I don't over water them,,,,,,how much is too much? lol

[kenstogie-cl]

Nice refresher course. A+

[nativetexan_1]

Thanks for the info. You obviously have too much time on your hands.