Pepin Whores Unite!

[EastBay]

Originally Posted by Blueface

I would doubt it.
Different names all together.
Cuba can't possibly have rights to every name in the alphabet with the letter C

I wasn't talking Cuba, Cibao is the label in question. Not sure if you remember the 90s and the Opus bru-ha-ha that dragged on for some time. This is usually what happens in wine world, any possibility of like sounding names leads to a lawsuit (not that I agree with it) and courts siding with the label that was first to the market (trademark laws and all).

I really like the EO guys and what they do, cigars wise, thus I hope they don't get burned with the new line about to hit the market.

[NCRadioMan]

Woo hoo! We have another Pepin to look forward to. The La Aroma de Cuba Edición Especial. Sounds good to me. Thanks for the info DA!

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar...4,2405,00.html

[txmatt]

[SIZE=7]Pepin Garcia List[/SIZE]
Updates in BOLD RED, please let me know of any additions/corrections

[SIZE=4]El Rey de los Habanos (Miami)[/SIZE]
Cabaiguan
Cuban Diplomat (Cigar King / Phatash)
Cuban Diplomat Corojo Rosado(Cigar King / Phatash)
Don Pepin Garcia Blue Label
Don Pepin Garcia Serie JJ (aka white label)
El Rey los de Habanos (aka Red Label)
Habana Leon (Cigar King / Phatash)
Havana Soul (Cigar King / Phatash)
Hirsh y Garcia (Cigar King / Phatash)
La Riqueza
Little Havana Overruns (Holt's)
Nacionales W (Cigar King / Phatash)
Padilla Miami 8/11 - Pepin stopped making
Padilla Signature 1932 - Pepin stopped making
Padilla 1948 - Pepin stopped making
Rey Miguel - (Black Cat Cigar Company) - Pepin stopped making
Sam's GS Stash - (Black Cat Cigar Company) - Pepin stopped making
Sancti Spiritus (Cigar King / Phatash)
Tatuaje
Top Shelf Signature Select Green (topshelfcigar.com)
Trahan – (Cigar Merchant, Georgia) - Discontinued
Vegas Cubanas


[SIZE=4]Tabacalera Cubana/TACUBA (Pepin's Nicaraguan factory)[/SIZE]
5 Vegas Miami (Cigars International)
Benchmade by Ashton (Interesting - this is not at Holt's)
Cabaiguan Guapo
Casa Royale
Corojo Label (Cigar.com)
Cubao (United Tobacco/EO Brands)
Don Pepin Garcia Cuban Classic (aka Black Label)
Don Pepin Garcia Serie JJ Maduro
EO Brands 601 (Conn-Gold Label, Habano-Red Label, Maduro-Blue Label, Oscuro-Green Label)
El Centurion
Fumadores (Holt's)
Holt's Connoisseur Selection
La Aroma de Cuba Edición Especial
Legends Pepin Garcia – Yellow Label (Cigars International)
Old Henry (Holt's)
Padilla Edicion Especial Achilles (Cigars International)
Padilla Series '68
San Cristobal
Tatuaje Havana VI
Tatuaje Havana VI Exclusivo Verocu
Tatuaje Series P
Troya Clasico

[SIZE=4]Tabacalera Tropical (Nicaragua)[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]It is believed Pepin created these blends:[/SIZE]
Anganorsa
Condega
JFR
Nicaragauan Heirloom (now discontinued)
Nicarao (Tabacalera Tropical 2006 and earlier)
Rio Tabac Alpha Series R – (Rocky’s Cigars)

[pro2625]

I have a 6 cigar pepin sampler coming. Cant wait to try them...

I have smoked a san cristobal and 601 maduro and loved every minute of them

[oldforge]

txmatt

Several web sites and posters here are claiming that the Havana VI Verocu (east coast and west coast) are discontinued even though the East Coast is still available at Holts. You might want to see what you can verify. This was discussed in the current Tat Black thread.

Btw this thread and your cheap smokes thread are really appreciated!

[Glacierman]

Top Shelf Signature Select Green labels are no longer in production. I believe Jim is selling off the remaining stock. I haven't been in touch with him since late April, so my info is as of that date.

- Richard

[tedrodgerscpa]

Originally Posted by txmatt

[SIZE=7]Pepin Garcia List[/SIZE]
Updates in BOLD RED, please let me know of any additions/corrections

Padilla Edicion Especial Achilles (Cigars International)

The Padilla Achilles have been re-released, and are not rolled by Pepin. You may want to update the list and call them 'original release' or something like that.

I've got some re-release coming, and will be glad to post a review and link in this thread if the new ones are any way close to the originals.

Ted

[D_A]

New one for the list, "My Father". Due out in early september, it features tobacco grown by the Garcias in Nicaragua with a Sumatran wrapper grown in Ecuador by Oliva Tobacco Co.

[rizzle]

Just wondering how long it will be until we see the "why does Pepin get a bad rep" thread and the responses contained therein.

[Razorhog]

Originally Posted by rizzle

Just wondering how long it will be until we see the "why does Pepin get a bad rep" thread and the responses contained therein.

No doubt. I like every Pepin I've tried (which is only a few because most are too pricey for me). However, I'm already overwhelmed at how many different sticks he blends, and it seems a new one comes out every week.

[longknocker]

Originally Posted by rizzle

Just wondering how long it will be until we see the "why does Pepin get a bad rep" thread and the responses contained therein.

I don't think that will happen! Never had a bad Pepin, although I've only smoked the Blue & JJ. Could anyone rate the Pepins as to increasing strength? Thanks so much!
Greg

[Ricmcam]

Originally Posted by mikey202

why must you tempt me with more cigars? As if the La Rosa's that you gave me weren't bad enough,i'm in deliberation with the wife for a box,now this .

how do you get some of these?

Sometimes it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission

[txmatt]

Originally Posted by rizzle

Just wondering how long it will be until we see the "why does Pepin get a bad rep" thread and the responses contained therein.

Blasphemy! I don't see that coming. The "bad rep" threads both concern cigar brands that market cigars manufactured by other people. Pepin owns the factories and creates the blends (or works with brand owners to create them). Pepin has been a cigar guy his whole life.

Although you see pretty magazine photos of Rocky "working the fields" and even hanging bunches of leaves, Rocky does not own factories or even create blends. The majority of Rocky's product is grown, blended, and rolled by Nestor Plasencia. Rocky is responsible for marketing and distributing the cigars, he IS NOT a cigar maker, he was originally an entertainment industry lawyer.

Gurkha cigars are for the most part blended and rolled by Torano. (I am not sure if they use Oliva or Plascencia tobacco). Kaizad has stated in interviews, "I have no pedigree in this business." His skills are in packaging from his family's watch business. He bought the brand name Gurkha for $143 in the 80's and his first successful cigars were flavored cigars that could be sold from the counter instead of the valuable humidor space during the boom. Gurkha is all about packaging and gimmicks to sell the cheapest cigar they can for the greatest price. I have said many times that people who like Gurkha cigars should sample the complete Torano brand to save themselves money and get a better cigar.

I realize you are using brand dilution of Don Pepin's products as the common thread between Garcia's cigars and Rocky/Hansotia products; and some would label all 3 brands "boutique", but all sell far too many cigars to fall into that category. I consider Rocky Patel and Gurkha "designer" cigar brands. Pepin is the only real cigar maker of the three, and so it remains apples and oranges to me.

-Matt-

[Mr. Ed]

Originally Posted by txmatt

Blasphemy! I don't see that coming. The "bad rep" threads both concern cigar brands that market cigars manufactured by other people. Pepin owns the factories and creates the blends (or works with brand owners to create them). Pepin has been a cigar guy his whole life.

Although you see pretty magazine photos of Rocky "working the fields" and even hanging bunches of leaves, Rocky does not own factories or even create blends. The majority of Rocky's product is grown, blended, and rolled by Nestor Plasencia. Rocky is responsible for marketing and distributing the cigars, he IS NOT a cigar maker, he was originally an entertainment industry lawyer.

Gurkha cigars are for the most part blended and rolled by Torano. (I am not sure if they use Oliva or Plascencia tobacco). Kaizad has stated in interviews, "I have no pedigree in this business." His skills are in packaging from his family's watch business. He bought the brand name Gurkha for $143 in the 80's and his first successful cigars were flavored cigars that could be sold from the counter instead of the valuable humidor space during the boom. Gurkha is all about packaging and gimmicks to sell the cheapest cigar they can for the greatest price. I have said many times that people who like Gurkha cigars should sample the complete Torano brand to save themselves money and get a better cigar.

I realize you are using brand dilution of Don Pepin's products as the common thread between Garcia's cigars and Rocky/Hansotia products; and some would label all 3 brands "boutique", but all sell far too many cigars to fall into that category. I consider Rocky Patel and Gurkha "designer" cigar brands. Pepin is the only real cigar maker of the three, and so it remains apples and oranges to me.

-Matt-

Excellent point!

[Virginia Gent]

Originally Posted by txmatt

Benchmade by Ashton (Interesting - this is not at Holt's)

You might want to update this as Holt's has had Benchmades for three or four weeks now.

Also, Fumadores are currently on sale for $29.95 a box- any size. Looks like a good time to try them.