Super Premium Stogies, worth it?

[defcon3]

Are they worth it??? It's up to the individual, The way I see it is, try em' on occasion...

Cigar smoking is a fun, relaxing, and exciting (in the aspect of taking a gamble to try something new, different, and perhaps expensive...

I can say for myself, I have had some Super Premiums that I thought were total crap as I scratched my head in wonder thinking "How exactly is this cigar selling for $20 + dollars?!?" And I have had some that tasted Super Premium as their price reflected...

On the contrary, I also buy some bundles that are dirt cheap, and in my mind have a $20+ dollar quality of taste and construction to it...

Funny thing is though... for me and my taste preference, I have yet to find a cigar that can beat an Oliva V...

[Acesfull]

[MrMusicMan1]

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[MrMusicMan1]

Originally Posted by Cigary

I agree with Donnie about cigars in general. It is a personal thing and regardless of the price of any stick it's about what you like. Cigars tend to be bandied about like they are trading cards,,,one seems to be worth more than another one or a better smoke than this one. I have a range of all costs in my humidors and I have gotten a lot of pleasure from a cigar that cost $1.25 because it has a taste I enjoy, I had a great drink with it and I had some great ruminations of the day. Conversely, I have had a $25 cigar and had a lousy day with a crappy drink and the wife and I had just had an argument so you can imagine how that cigar smoked. It's a state of mind that you share with a cigar and if your mind is relaxed and receptive a $4 cigar can taste like a super premium one.

I have to agree. Your state of mind will make a huge difference.

[zeavran1]

For me, anything over $10 is super-premium. I've only smoked a handful of anything more expensive than that and they were very good. But not so much that I'd pay $20 for one. Who knows, maybe in the future. Right now it's just not in the budget.

[rudeJARHEAD]

Originally Posted by Cyber

C-bid $.90 to $1.10 a stick
Cigars Int. $1.76 a stick
Local B&M $5.10 a stick

so is it a 1$ stick, a 2$ stick or a 5$ stick?

It depends on if that B&M smoke comes with a lounge and big screen TV that you can enjoy when the days are too hot/cold/windy/raining. If it does I will support that B&M and eat the difference occasionally. I do the majority of my shopping on C-bid and via the internet but there is just something about walking through the Humi oohing and ahhing over whats new and what looks good today and picking out a hand full of odds and ends that you may or may not buy a box or fiver of on line. Of course just my $.02

[MrMoJoe]

To each his own. While 95% of the cigars I smoke (and enjoy tremendously) are in the $4-$8 range, I've smoked a few cigars in the $20-$25 range, and quite a few in the $13-$16 range, and I have to ask myself, "Is the $20.00 cigar 4-times better than the $5.00 stick? Is the $15.00 one 3-times as good? (and so on). The resounding answer is always "No". In that sense, they absolutely are not worth it.

Ultimately, smoke what you like - you don't have to justify it to anyone else. If you enjoy it, and can afford it, I guess it's worth it. I do it occasionally even though I know it's not really "worth it". Go figger.

[jessejava187]

I have paid 20 bucks but most of the time im in 10 to 15, like with opus, GOF, and such, but my everyday smokes are like short storys and TAT VI anglels, and there are more like 5 bucks and maybe some cheaper CC like Monte 5 and punch 12, these seem to be what i buy boxs of you know in the 100 to 150 box range.

[GoodFella]

if u have to ask, NO.

To me some are. i have had some that are crap while others are good. some get cought up in the "my cigars are better cus i paid more" attitude. try some but dont get stuck in the hype.

[NeverBend]

Originally Posted by veteranvmb

Exactly. Price of my everyday stick has ranged from a good buy on a bid for around 3.50. The 4 local b and m,s charge 12-13 dollars for it. They must have some markup Maybee I should sell them some of mine. lOL
Much regards Jerry

It used to be that cigars had a fixed list price that was discounted to the retailers so the retail price was fixed from MSRP and down. Taxes weren't an issue.

Now many prices are set by (cost + taxes) * markup. The BMs generally have high taxes that shoot their prices up. MSRP seems to be set based on this.

Some weeks ago I loaded up on Gurkhas from JR @$2.60 a stick (inc shipping) that had MSRPs of $8-$16 and they all smoke like what I consider a @$1,50 - $2.00 stick (not bad, just not worth the money). I use them as knockarounds.

Over the Labor Day weekend I gave 3 friends some sticks (bands removed) that I had just gotten for $1.25 and they thought that they were @$10-$12 cigars. I agree, exceptional.

The bottom line is that cigars are for our enjoyment and whatever price someone pays - if the stick delivers then it's a good cigar.

Good smoking,

Pete

[Herf N Turf]

So much experience and sage wisdom on this thread!

Originally Posted by madurolover

For every 10 people you find who feel that a $20 cigar is not worth the price you will find 10 others who feel that it is. This is another one of the things about our hobby that makes it such a personalized one.

I may feel that a $12 Opus X is worth the price while another brother thinks it is not.
In the end, smoke what you like and like what you smoke!

Originally Posted by Cigary

It's a state of mind that you share with a cigar and if your mind is relaxed and receptive a $4 cigar can taste like a super premium one.

Originally Posted by GoodFella

If you have to ask, NO.

Funny I should find this thread while still in the first inch of my absolute favorite NC... Anejo Shark!

I'm not boasting, but consider this... Anejo Shark IS my personal favorite non-cuban cigar. That means, I would step over five packs of most Opus, Padron, Tatuaje... ad infinitum, to get to just one Shark. I paid $14 for this particular stick and I have never smoked anything more expensive that was better. Now, I have paid more, which brings up my point.

I rarely pay sticker price for "super-premiums". With some, it's unavoidable, but I never fall for the "gougings" that some retailers put on premi's. Fact is, there is NOTHING so rare, nothing soooo special, as to out-pace it's original MSRP. The most expensive cigar in my inventory is a PAM 80, but I have other cigars, for which I paid a third, yet people regularly pay three times it's retail cost, which are [in my opinion] better.

In the end, the real acid test is, how that cigar tastes to me!

[SkinsFanLarry]

Originally Posted by scottw

I don't judge the cost of my sticks, just how they taste and whether I like them or not. Now, obviously, if I paid $20 for a cigar and it sucks, I'll react differently than if I purchased it for $5 but nonetheless,I judge them on their flavor, strength and body, not necessarily cost.

I gotta agree with Scott on this one!

[burnsco]

For the most part, no. I've enjoyed my padron 3000's and flor de oliva's WAY better then most of the platinum packs I've bought from Atlantic. Only thing that caught my attention was the don pepin sticks.