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long vs short filler whats the difference

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    Puffer Fish with some spikes friz's Avatar


     

    long vs short filler whats the difference

    Tried to search this but no luck unless I did something wrong. What is the difference between long/short filler cigars. Thanks for the help

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    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    Quote Originally Posted by friz View Post
    Tried to search this but no luck unless I did something wrong. What is the difference between long/short filler cigars. Thanks for the help
    Long Filler- Means that each piece of the filler is a single leaf that runs end to end of the cigar. Most premium handmades are made from this type of filler.

    Short Filler- Are shorter pieces of tobacco, it is used in some handmade cigars like Drew Estate's La Vieja Habana. It is also what is used in most machine made drug store cigars.


    Clear as mud????

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    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    Often, the short fill tobacco comes from the cuttings of the long fillers during rolling. That's how they claim to have the "same tobacco as so-and-so ultra premium".

    Then, there are sandwich cigars. Made from a mixture of some long fill and some short fill.

    If you're asking the difference in how they smoke...typically the LF's will be have a straiter burn, tighter ash, and a more consistent flavor. Also, SF's tend to release little bits of tobacco onto your tongue and lips. Sandwich gars, give the best of both worlds...lower price than LF and better construction than SF.

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    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    Quote Originally Posted by teedles915 View Post
    Long Filler- Means that each piece of the filler is a single leaf that runs end to end of the cigar. Most premium handmades are made from this type of filler.

    Short Filler- Are shorter pieces of tobacco, it is used in some handmade cigars like Drew Estate's La Vieja Habana. It is also what is used in most machine made drug store cigars.


    Clear as mud????
    Yep. Short filler is basically comprised of remnants and tobacco scraps. It will burn faster and is generally considered low-grade.

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    Puffer Fish with some spikes friz's Avatar


     

    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    Thanks for the help that is an easy explanation

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    Puffer Fish with some spikes SureShot81's Avatar


     

    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    Also, when using short-filler tobacco, I imagine that the variations in a blend would be greater which would effect the taste as previously stated. It is a lot easier to blend when you're dealing with whole leafs instead of little pieces here and there and trying to make a consistent cigar.

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    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    I have had a few nice SF cigars too so don't totally put them to the side. The LvH is my go-to and is a good smoke at a decent price too.


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    Puffer Fish with some spikes SureShot81's Avatar


     

    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    Not to thread jack, but in a similar vein, what exactly is medium filler? Is this just what people refer to when there is a mix of long and short filler in a cigar?

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    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    Quote Originally Posted by ericb13 View Post
    Often, the short fill tobacco comes from the cuttings of the long fillers during rolling. That's how they claim to have the "same tobacco as so-and-so ultra premium".

    Then, there are sandwich cigars. Made from a mixture of some long fill and some short fill.
    A good example is the Tatuaje P Series. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's made from the scraps of the Havana VI. It is rumored to have both "medium" & "long" filler.
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    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    Quote Originally Posted by commonsenseman View Post
    A good example is the Tatuaje P Series. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's made from the scraps of the Havana VI. It is rumored to have both "medium" & "long" filler.
    The P Series is 60% medium, and 40% long. What the hell does medium filler mean?
    Vitolas - Tatuaje/Series P

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    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    Quote Originally Posted by SureShot81 View Post
    The P Series is 60% medium, and 40% long. What the hell does medium filler mean?
    Vitolas - Tatuaje/Series P
    Not sure about this one...my guess is that it is from leaves that were possibly too short or mis-shapen to be considered LF? Either that or it is the "longer" cuttings from the rolling process. If you watch someone roll, you'll see that sometimes they cut off pretty big chunks of the leaf...maybe those are the medium fills.

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    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    Just what the site says.

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    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    Wow, this was really informative! I was curious about the same thing...
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    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    if you like Arturo Fuente you can smoke bits and pieces of AF's in one of these the Curly Head and the Curly Head Deluxe. Tabacalera A. Fuente sell the left over bits and pieces to the company J.C. Newman in Tampa. one of the last cigar makers in Tampa Fl.
    a friend of mine told me stories of these big cigar manufacturer promotions in Tampa where they would give out a ton of cigars. no idea how good they were as he doesn't smoke premiums
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    Re: long vs short filler whats the difference

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke Rises View Post
    if you like Arturo Fuente you can smoke bits and pieces of AF's in one of these the Curly Head and the Curly Head Deluxe. Tabacalera A. Fuente sell the left over bits and pieces to the company J.C. Newman in Tampa. one of the last cigar makers in Tampa Fl.
    a friend of mine told me stories of these big cigar manufacturer promotions in Tampa where they would give out a ton of cigars. no idea how good they were as he doesn't smoke premiums
    I keep a few of the deluxe maduros around, good smoke for less then 3 bucks a stick. Yep they are made from leftovers from AF
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