A 43 year old man owned me. (verbally...)

[pnoon]

Originally Posted by Jeff

Exactly. At the end of the day, its just a damn cigar. Who gives a rat's ass what anyone calls it. If they get that bent out of shape over it, then walk the other way.

My personal preference is to call them Cubans, but I could care less what other people say.

Personally, I think the term is silly.
But uneducated? Disrespectful? He's ANNOYED by its use?
Ignore him and what he said.
RGD is right - "he was just showing what a dick he is"

[Twill413]

If the man is really looking in on Forums like this one to see who is talking about ISOM's, I would be really pissed off. What a waste of taxpayer money it would be to watch a bunch of cigar guys talk about cuban cigars. The only reason that they are called cuban cigars is to distinguish them from all the other legal cigars. You wouldn't say you and a bunch of friends sat around smoking Dominicans the other day. It's just ridiculous that people get so worked up over somethign so insignificant as to not be this worthy of debate. I would agree, use ISOM as much as possible on the board. That is going to be the only guy to get annoyed with it, so please irritate him as much as possible. Also agreed, we will probably see him on an upcoming episode of Dateline's "To Catch a Predator" as a MySPace predator.

[LeafHog]

IHT is on MySpace?

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by LeafHog

IHT is on MySpace?

I was waiting for someone to bring IHT into this.

Originally Posted by IHT

IHTs best ISOM source

oh, i got plenty of those, but it seems everyone wants "ISOMs" for some reason. i thought we were wanting cuban cigars, not islands??
figured i'd help ppl buy some islands... don't...

[LeafHog]

what can I say, I have no self control.

[mrputts]

Originally Posted by Speedmaster

Does a country who doesn't allow it's citizens to travel freely outside it's borders deserve respect?

we can't travel to cuba freely...

[donp]

Originally Posted by Catalyst Paintball

Well today, I posted in a MySpace Cigar group regarding my spending habit on cigars, and I touched on the subject of Cuban cigars. I made the mistake of reffering to them as ISOM's and he kinda went off on me...



I apologized to him to make sure waters were calm, but I ask you CS gorillas...
Is "ISOM" a degrading term in your opinion?

Nah not degrading at all IMO. It is an abbreviation to refer to a type of cigar. He may have been reacting with impatience to a trendy method of reference as many do nowadays or, he may have taken the oppty to stand on a soapbox and go off about his version of "what the world needs now, is love, sweet love". Hell, if his issue was accuracy, then he could have simply corrected your reference in a different way.
I do not OTOH (opps plz excuse the reference) think it has anything to do with political correctness as it has nothing to do with our country, it's people or, the issues we deal with in this country. It is a reference to a place; a different country, which our country has had differences with for many decades. Our people have different feelings about it and, reserve the right to refer to that place in any way we damn well feel, which points out the differences between Cuba and the USA; we have rights and freedoms which they don't.

[Catalyst Paintball]

Well now I dont feel bad. But I'll tell you this... I travel to Florida about 6 times a year. I would rather not bump into this guy...



Daklugs: And it's Pedalphile. Amazing the difference just a couple letters make. If you guys wanna fight go over to myspace and have at it.

[PadronMe]

Originally Posted by mrputts

we can't travel to cuba freely...

Don't even try to compare.

[Golfman]

so what does ISOM stand for? or mean?


mega noob over here....

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Golfman

so what does ISOM stand for? or mean?


mega noob over here....

• I - Island
• S - South
• O - Of
• M - Miami

[Twill413]

Originally Posted by Golfman

so what does ISOM stand for? or mean?


mega noob over here....

Check here... http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showthr...=abbreviations

[JonnySlingblade]

I know the conversion rate on my is not as high as some senior Yen-like members of CS, but as an enjoyer of fine cuban products, this sorta makes me think.
Cigars have been made in Cuba for much longer than Communism and Castro have been in power. This tradition is one that I think we can all agree deserves our respect. Through the processes of regime change in this "Island South of Miami", the legacy of cigarmaking has continued for generations. While I wouldnt senselessly flame someone on the internet for using a term like this, I would fault them for falling into the tiger trap of Cold War American propaganda, belittling it to empower the strong arm of democracy. Namely, the rights of these citizens are not the same as us, therefore it is an inferior system.
Without soundling like a confounded liberal, let me expound. This world is comprised of many different countries with many different ideas of how a government should work in relation to it's people. Because we live in economic and political liberty, we regard it as the best sytem of government, because, quite frankly, it is all we know. If you ask the bulk of Iraq right now, democracy isn't working as well as anticipated. Can democracy be forced on a nation unwilling to recieve it. I suppose it's an argument for other issues.
What's in question here is the practices of one government, and our criticism of it. I personally do not believe democracy is right for every nation. That there are some things, such as religious, racial, and ethical issues that cannot be resolved by democractic elections and buzz word like "Free elections". The world is not as clear cut as this. Try to look at it from a different view. Certainly this isnt like calling the Middle-East "god's armpit", but it is still at least slightly disrespectful. Perhaps if our government was a bit more socialist, we wouldnt have this vast, far-reaching corruption that we have with Congress, private organizations, and the military-industrial complex as a whole.
Bottom line, is using terms like ISOM is inviting the rants of assholes like the one you encountered. Unfortunatley, by some damnable glitch of modern science, most assholes have computers and internet access.

[BP22]

Originally Posted by LeafHog

IHT is on MySpace?

o

[Twill413]

Originally Posted by JonnySlingblade

I know the conversion rate on my is not as high as some senior Yen-like members of CS, but as an enjoyer of fine cuban products, this sorta makes me think.
Cigars have been made in Cuba for much longer than Communism and Castro have been in power. This tradition is one that I think we can all agree deserves our respect. Through the processes of regime change in this "Island South of Miami", the legacy of cigarmaking has continued for generations. While I wouldnt senselessly flame someone on the internet for using a term like this, I would fault them for falling into the tiger trap of Cold War American propaganda, belittling it to empower the strong arm of democracy. Namely, the rights of these citizens are not the same as us, therefore it is an inferior system.
Without soundling like a confounded liberal, let me expound. This world is comprised of many different countries with many different ideas of how a government should work in relation to it's people. Because we live in economic and political liberty, we regard it as the best sytem of government, because, quite frankly, it is all we know. If you ask the bulk of Iraq right now, democracy isn't working as well as anticipated. Can democracy be forced on a nation unwilling to recieve it. I suppose it's an argument for other issues.
What's in question here is the practices of one government, and our criticism of it. I personally do not believe democracy is right for every nation. That there are some things, such as religious, racial, and ethical issues that cannot be resolved by democractic elections and buzz word like "Free elections". The world is not as clear cut as this. Try to look at it from a different view. Certainly this isnt like calling the Middle-East "god's armpit", but it is still at least slightly disrespectful. Perhaps if our government was a bit more socialist, we wouldnt have this vast, far-reaching corruption that we have with Congress, private organizations, and the military-industrial complex as a whole.
Bottom line, is using terms like ISOM is inviting the rants of assholes like the one you encountered. Unfortunatley, by some damnable glitch of modern science, most assholes have computers and internet access.

James Carville: "We have no response, that was perfect"
Frank "The Tank": "Now that's how you debate. That's the way you're supposed to debate."