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non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

This is a discussion on non tobacco ingredients in cigar????????? within the General Cigar Discussion forums, part of the The Cigar Lounges at Puff category; ok guys/gal i went to a local store today to pick up a bundle of sticks fer a every yardgar. ...

  
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    Young Puffer Fish bigb9582's Avatar


     

    non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    ok guys/gal i went to a local store today to pick up a bundle of sticks fer a every yardgar. well i was talkin to to owner and he recomended TAMPMA TROLLEYS, made by jc newman, aged dominican filler, genuine connecticut broadleaf maduro, made in cigar city, usa. 20 churchill 7 1/4x52.
    any way boughtem, got home smoked one great burn mild tasting, ect...
    BUT as i was taking out of the plastic bundle i just happen to see this in small print on the botton the cardboard insert, "these fine cigars are custom made with aged, fully cured imported tobaccos. these cigars are predominatly tobacco with non-tobacco ingredients added."
    WTF is the non tobacco ingredients?????? did i by a bundle of giant cigarettes disguied as cigars???
    isnt cigars supposed to be 100% tobaccy??? i only smoked one and im thinking about takem back unless its somthing dumb.

    sorry for the rant but i dont like to see that message on my sticks.

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    Alpha Puffer Fish nikonnut's Avatar


     

    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    Perhaps it refers to the pectin (or whatever "glue" they use) to hold them together?
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    Cigar Artist DarrelMorris's Avatar


     

    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    It sounds disturbing, but is probably something that their legal department makes them put on everything.

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    Young Puffer Fish bigb9582's Avatar


     

    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    i thought about the glue, which would make sense since thses are not machine wrapped with that paper crap, haha. they look just like anyother handmade gar, but the not freaks me out a little

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    Puffer Fish with some spikes GIBrett's Avatar


     

    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    From doing a little googling I've found a few answers. Obviously if it's a flavored cigar it's not flavored with tobacco. If the cigar is made on a machine there is a chance they use paper in the process. This is what I got from another site. "The 'non tobacco ingredients' they're referring to is the homogenized sheet wrapper, which is essentially paper, not tobacco! Such non tobacco ingredients include paper, wood and dust particles. All of these ingredients are pressed into paper rolls that are used to wrap the cigars."

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    Leading Puffer Fish V-ret's Avatar


     

    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    http://www.cancercontrol.cancer.gov/...phs/9/m9_8.PDF

    Go to page 4. Still don't know what the non tobacco ingredient is though.

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    King Kongs Decendant exprime8's Avatar


     

    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    yeap some cheap bundle cigars use a paper or "homogenized" binders.
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    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    Mouse poop.

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    Leading Puffer Fish V-ret's Avatar


     

    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by eNthusiast View Post
    Mouse poop.
    Is that where they get the barnyard taste from?

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    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    Tampa Trolleys is a bundle line Newman introduced early this year. They're machine rolled cigars with a Connecticut Broadleaf wrapper, and filler from the DR, Nicaragua and Honduras. Since they made no reference to the binder in any of the material I've seen on the cigars, it seems likely that the binder is homogenized tobacco, which is used in nearly all machine rolled cigars. And it tends to be a mixture of tobacco, paper and other products. There's no way that reference is to the vegetable glue because that's used in every premium cigar and isn't considered part of the composition. You could also give 'em a call and ask (813) 248-2124. And let us know what they say.

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    Young Puffer Fish bigb9582's Avatar


     

    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    ya im gonna callem when i get up tomarrow.
    they are not flavored so thats out, not paper wrapped, so thats out.
    soo that eather leaves, dirt, wood,paper, or mouse poop. lol
    if i cant get a answer to marrow i may cut one up to see whats in it.

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    Got Weenis? Cigar Noob's Avatar


     

    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    Have you cut one open and looked at the binder? I wonder why you think paper is out when nearly all machine made cigars have what Ghe and a few others mentioned. I think they figured it out already.

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    Double Trouble ejgarnut's Avatar


     

    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by ghe View Post
    it seems likely that the binder is homogenized tobacco, which is used in nearly all machine rolled cigars. And it tends to be a mixture of tobacco, paper and other products.
    i think you nailed it with this explanation


    the "non-tobacco ingredients" disclaimer is the same as found on swisher sweets & other machine made cigars
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    Young Puffer Fish bigb9582's Avatar


     

    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Cigar Noob View Post
    Have you cut one open and looked at the binder? I wonder why you think paper is out when nearly all machine made cigars have what Ghe and a few others mentioned. I think they figured it out already.
    sorry what i ment by no paper was the outside (like a whiteowl, philli's, etc.)
    im bout to go cut open the nub thats left in the ash tray in a few mins.

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    Young Puffer Fish bigb9582's Avatar


     

    Re: non tobacco ingredients in cigar?????????

    well i pulled the 2"ish nub out of the trayand here is what i got
    leaf on outside, what i though was leaf for the binder until i relized there was no veins in it, a weirdly cut paper thing goin around the tip and then tobaccy inside.
    so yes it does have a paper binder and the weirdly cut paper below were i cut the tip.
    o well ill smoke up this bundle and look fer another "true hand made yardgar"
    now to go get the nasty stale gar smell off my hands

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