Ashton VSG vs Padron Anni. 64- Super Premium Face Off

[moki]

Originally Posted by TechMetalMan

I have thought about half a box of each. I may have to hold off though and end up going darkside- there is a deal going on right now that I'm not sure I can refuse.

It is foolish to buy anything before you've tried 'em, IMHO. Get a sample of the cigars you're thinking of buying first.

[kjd2121]

If I were you I would also consider the Tatuaje lines -

Brown Label
Cojonu

[12stones]

Originally Posted by TechMetalMan

Might go buy one of each tonight.

Did you?

Originally Posted by moki

It is foolish to buy anything before you've tried 'em, IMHO. Get a sample of the cigars you're thinking of buying first.

If not, got with this suggestion.

Maybe get 5'er of each and that'll give you some more cash to maybe throw a couple other makes into the mix to make a final decision.

[TechMetalMan]

No I have not- waiting for my friend to get me some cash that he owes me- and today he is in Galveston

Fivers from where? I'd normally just head on down to Serious...I think I will go down there, grab a VSG, Anni, Tat Havana VI and maybe one other choice...I know it'd be better to sample more than one of each...oh...but you are saying to buy five of a couple of different super premiums and have a variety. Genius- may go with that at some point---still contemplating the dark side.

[TechMetalMan]

Tomorrow for sure- got a check in today

[TMoneYNYY]

From what I've heard, Trent, the ESG's aren't so bad, either!

[TechMetalMan]

Originally Posted by LSUTIGER

I wouldn't consider either to be Super Premium (by a long shot), but I would have to go with the Padrons here.

What would you consider a super premium?

[12stones]

Originally Posted by TechMetalMan

No I have not- waiting for my friend to get me some cash that he owes me- and today he is in Galveston

Fivers from where? I'd normally just head on down to Serious...I think I will go down there, grab a VSG, Anni, Tat Havana VI and maybe one other choice...I know it'd be better to sample more than one of each...oh...but you are saying to buy five of a couple of different super premiums and have a variety. Genius- may go with that at some point---still contemplating the dark side.

I say a fiver so you know what you're getting and aren't putting to chance getting a bad stick and making your decision based on that.

[TechMetalMan]

Originally Posted by 12stones

I say a fiver so you know what you're getting and aren't putting to chance getting a bad stick and making your decision based on that.

http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showthread.php?t=55469

Well I only picked up one. I figure if I get something bad then I will put it off as a lame stick and grab another soon after

[okierock]

Well I don't know what you had in mind from this thread but here is my opinion of these two cigars VSG vs PAM.

I pick the PAM because I like it better than the PAN mostly because when you compare the PAN to the PAM the PAM wins on texture and richness for me. The PAM is more creamy with a darker more robust flavor and for comparison to the VSG is going to be a closer comparision.

VSG - I have a box of the Tres Mystiques and this is my opinion of them so far (these are probably around 1.5-2.5 years old. This is a powerhouse of a cigar this little guy can kick yo !@#. Heavy on the vitamin N and even heavier on the overwhelming robust flavor. It has a really long finish and if you like em strong buy the VSG.

PAM - Though I haven't had the Pricipe yet I have had several of this line and I have been impressed in each case with the impecable construction and consistancy of the padron anni's. I have said this before the PAM's are so consistant they could be considered boring. Basically you know what your getting and it's good, really good. This cigar is every bit as strong as the VSG when you are talking about vitamin N. The flavor side is something else though, the PAM is creamy and rich with chocolate vanilla notes. The PAM is full flavored without a hint of harshness.

The Tres Mystique is the fullest flavored of the VSG line that I've had and is a great smoke. In terms of food the VSG would be the Texas state chili cookoff winner while the PAM would be a perfectly prepared ribeye at your favorite steakhouse. Both are great but not at all simular.

[TechMetalMan]

Thanks okie- that's exactly what I was looking for actually

Well I bought a Principe and a Tres Mystique- we will see how things go

[kjd2121]

Originally Posted by TechMetalMan

What would you consider a super premium?

This is what I would like to know as well. Anything that is near 10.00 a stick is super premium to me. Now I know that there are more expensive sticks, but I dont think cost necessarily makes a stick any more premium than another once above the 10.00 mark. IMHO -

Hell, I smoke some cubans that cost below 10.00/stick and they are superior to any NC super-premium that I have smoked.

[TechMetalMan]

Originally Posted by kjd2121

This is what I would like to know as well. Anything that is near 10.00 a stick is super premium to me. Now I know that there are more expensive sticks, but I dont think cost necessarily makes a stick any more premium than another once above the 10.00 mark. IMHO -

Hell, I smoke some cubans that cost below 10.00/stick and they are superior to any NC super-premium that I have smoked.

My sentiments exactly.

But then again, what do I know?

[lenguamor]

Originally Posted by kjd2121

This is what I would like to know as well. Anything that is near 10.00 a stick is super premium to me. Now I know that there are more expensive sticks, but I dont think cost necessarily makes a stick any more premium than another once above the 10.00 mark. IMHO -

Hell, I smoke some cubans that cost below 10.00/stick and they are superior to any NC super-premium that I have smoked.

You're right...with a few exceptions.

And that's what they are, exceptions, because a lot of $10+ sticks do NOT merit the price. Those worth the cash are Padron Ani's, especially the 1926 maddies; Ashton VSG's; Opus X; Fuente Anejos.

There are some special releases which qualify as well, like the limited release Litto Gomez Diez, the 7x47 beauty...you rarely see a cigar that beautiful that lives up to its looks. Phenomenal smoke, even at $12+.

The Padron 40th also qualifies, even at the mind-numbing price of $25 a stick. It's worth having at least once, and if you could afford to stash a few for a few years, I'm certain that you'd be rewarded with a once-in-a-lifetime smoke.

[Dr_Trac]

I must say i prefer the Padron 1964's about all else at the moment.

always a great draw with beautiful smoke, and the quality never falters.

the Ashton VSG's i've had so far were good, but not as good as the Padrons.

just my 2cents tho.