Unofficial CS Presidential Poll

[IHT]

Originally Posted by WACigar

Please note, this is a tongue in cheek reply; I'm not looking to make enemies with people who obviously have a different opinion of George Bush. I think it is all a matter of perspective. As I see it, President Bush has the entire world hating us (including long time allies) {i'm glad this is tongue in cheek, cuz you can't be serious. the world hated we americans long before he took office, and i see it all the time when i travel to other countries, you should see what their news says about us!}, he's gotten 900+ American soldiers killed in order to avenge his daddy {uh.. no... he's kept things from happening in the future. wish i could dig up a link, but it showed how many terrorist attempts have been thwarted recently.}, he has created some of the biggest budget deficits this country has ever seen, rewards people for having kids by giving them tax breaks the rest of us don't get {and what about all the welfare the Dems hand out to all the babies having babies?? that sounds like what a democrat does.}, he prevents research from being conducted that could save human lives, and he feels it is his right to tell two loving humans that they can't marry. Is my perspective just "off?"

i don't have a problem with anyones political views if they're someone i would like anyway... that's their view (unless they're hitler or saddam or osama).

but my replies are in the post.

i don't have a real issue on the entire "gay/lesbian marriage" thing, cuz they're gonna do what they wanna do regardless. i don't pay much attention to it because it won't effect me directly, but isn't it more about them getting the same benefits that "standard boy/girl" married couples get?

man, i'm really thinking i should've just NOT posted that first political email on here....

but i like this... i just want to know WHAT j. kerry PLANS on doing IF elected. i want details on HOW he PLANS on doing it.
cuz if he gets elected, then doesn't have any plans at all, isn't that like lieing on your resume?

[mr.c]

Kerry will be speaking tonite, so you will have a chance to be swayed. Dont forget to watch the movie Speilberg put together on kerry (some of it is faked -but dont worry about that)

[IHT]

wish i could, but i'm stuck at work.

[summerkc]

Originally Posted by mr.c

Kerry will be speaking tonite, so you will have a chance to be swayed. Dont forget to watch the movie Speilberg put together on kerry (some of it is faked -but dont worry about that)

His speech is going to be 55 minutes (yes that is how long it is supposed to be) of "Bush has completely distroyed america and Im going to fix it even though I refuse to say how". No thanks.

[Lord Hammer]

Originally Posted by Treyjo43

Umm, it seems you forgot a little thing called the sepearation of Church and State

I rest my case..."I'm not qualified" .

[relaxnsmoke]

WOW! Attack dogs! Politics suck, I'm not watching any of this Nonsense tonight or when the Republicans have their LoveFest. (I avoid conventions and election returns like the plague, the last election return was a nightmare, not because of the outcome....because it lasted weeks! I couldn't avoid it! [SIZE=4]JEB, CHADS, GORE, BUSH! ARRRRGH![/SIZE] )

I think everyone who votes wins. If you do not vote, you lose. I'd never attack a person for their beliefs though. Democrats Liberal? About as Liberal as the next check they get from corporate donors, Nader is right on that issue.......I'm Liberal, you want to see a liberal dude come check me out. I'd make Nader look like Pat Robertson. I just don't even give a hoot about the whole lot of them. I'm about as loosey goosey as you can find, nobody I know would ever say, Hey, relaxnsmoke is a hardcore conservative. Just because I'm liberal doesn't mean I'm Democrat, Republican, Independent, Green or any other affilliated political party member. I'm me. A guy with one vote.

flipflop made some valid points about outsourcing, my wife reads both of those characters' op eds on a regular basis, then bounces it off my superball 'noggin (Tries to engage me in some other topic than food, sex and sleep.) I really don't care about politics at all. If you can't smoke it, F$%# It! But this is a lively topic.....makes me want to puff up a fine hand rolled cigar.

PDS is really getting the pot stirred up with this post!!!

[Wetterhorn]

I saw this on the net, and thought it might be worthwhile. It is from Senator Kerry's commander in Viet Nam.

"During Lt.(jg) Kerry's tour, he was under my command for two or three specific operations, before his rapid exit. Trust, loyalty and judgment are the key, operative words. His turncoat performance in 1971 in his grubby shirt and his medal-tossing escapade, coupled with his slanderous lines in the recent book portraying us that served, including all POWs and MIAs, as murderous war criminals, I believe, will have a lasting effect on all military veterans and their families.

"Kerry would be described as devious, self-absorbing, manipulative, disdain for authority, disruptive, but the most common phrase that you'd hear is 'requires constant supervision.'"

-- Captain Charles Plumly, USN (retired)

And this from a crewmate...

"My name is Steve Gardner. I served in 1966 and 1967 on my first tour of duty in Vietnam on Swift boats, and I did my second tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of my tour. The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody else is portraying. I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away from him in a gun tub, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy... if a man like that can't handle that 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be our Commander-in-Chief?"

-- Steven Gardner

[Bman]

I just thought I would a my .02 to this thread… I vote for what I believe in… In this I mean the people that run for any office most times is not the major issue…I want to vote for some one that has the same basic beliefs that I have… Therefore I am a Republican simply because the basic party platform is the closet party platform that I believe in… No I don’t see eye to eye on all issues exactly the same as all I vote for but that will never happen. I believe in the American Dream and I’m not going to vote for some one that doesn’t. Taking my hard earned tax dollars and giving it to some one to sit at home to eat sleep and drink on my dime isn’t my idea of the American Dream. I believe in Supply Side Economics… This is simple, have you ever heard a retailer say if you don’t have it you can’t sell it…Therefore if some one doesn’t make it you can’t buy it… When people are paid by the government to stay home and not add anything to the economy it raises prices for every one…. I guess I could go on and on but if I created a political party this would be my platform.

-I like big cars, big boats, big motorcycles, big houses and big campfires.

-I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some governmental stooge with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts for squirting out babies.

-Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

-I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts!

-I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.

- I don't think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.

-I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.

-When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that's not racial profiling, it is the law of statistics.

-I know what sex is, and there are not varying degrees of it. If I received sex from one of my subordinates in my office, it wouldn't be a private matter or my personal business. I would be "FIRED" immediately!

-I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak English! My father and grandfather shouldn't have to
die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.

-I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word "freeze" or "stop" in English, see the above lines.

-I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation recount votes when needed. I know what the definition of lying is.

-I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business. We did not go to the aid of
certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document and open to their interpretations.

-I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. I know wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television, and that doesn't stop you from watching them.

-I believe a self-righteous liberal or conservative with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

-I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that's better and put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you.

-It doesn't take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid and smack their little ass' when necessary and say "NO".

-"I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don't pretend they are a political statement. And Please stay home until that new lip ring heals, I don't want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me fries!

-I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups that go along with it.
HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!
There is some humor in this also… If you don’t like my platform don’t get mad … Go make you own political party…. And no I didn’t write this, someone e-mailed it to me, so I’m not alone… Bman

[IHT]

i have read that email, and i love it.
i'm so sick of political correctness, people need to grow a thick skin and just start calling things as you see them.

[Churchlady]

Awesome post Bman!

Wetterhorn, where'd you find that stuff? I'd love to get some more "ammo".

[Wetterhorn]

Originally Posted by Churchlady

Awesome post Bman!

Wetterhorn, where'd you find that stuff? I'd love to get some more "ammo".

Here is the web link: http://kerry-04.com/war/shipmates.php

[Churchlady]

tanks!

[WACigar]

Didn't the attack by terrorists on September 11, 2001 occur while Bush was in office? The terrorists must not be too worried about a republican president if they will attack while one is in office. Am I correct?

Someone on TV last night stated that people are not voting for Kerry, they are voting against Bush. I hate to admit it, but I fall into that group. For the most part, I am pleased with Bush's accomplishments around the world but think he has done a miserable job at home. I want someone who can carry on the momentum of the so called "War on Terror" while improving things here in the US. Kerry says he can do it so right now he has my vote. If he does't give me a better explanation of how he intends to do this I could vote the other way. I saw a sign which sums up my feelings: "Kerry, a man who thinks twice before saying nothing."

[2chairs]

Originally Posted by WACigar

Didn't the attack by terrorists on September 11, 2001 occur while Bush was in office? The terrorists must not be too worried about a republican president if they will attack while one is in office. Am I correct?

No, your not correct. Remember the 9/11 attacks were in the planning stages for many years. Al-Qaeda grossly misjudged Bush's resolve and the reaction of the American people. All they had to go on was how we had meekly responded to previous attacks (first WTC bombing, USS Cole, Khobar Towers, etc.) There have been numerous stories about captured al-Qaeda "lieutenants" who have said this.

Now they know that Bush says what he means and backs it up with force.

What they do know, is that Kerry flip-flops and doesn't talk as tough as W. IMHO, they see Kerry as less intransigent than Bush and that would please them much more.

[Churchlady]

Voting... NOT Kerry - I like this quote...

"In 1971, '72, for almost 18 months, he stood before the television audiences and claimed that the 500,000 men and women in Vietnam, and in combat, were all villains -- there were no heroes. In 2004, one hero from the Vietnam War has appeared, running for President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief. It just galls one to think about it."

-- Captain George Elliott, USN (retired)

talk about opportunistic!