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Old 05-17-2007, 06:32 PM   #16
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Hmmm, at this point, I'm honestly wondering one thing: why make it so complicated? From what you've hinted, it's going to be a feat of engineering just to build it. From all of the engineering projects I've helped on and professors I've talked to, one of the golden rules of engineering sounds to be KISS (keep it simple, stupid). Why go to extreme lengths to build a humidor when simple is better in this case? Is it really worth it to put in an air-exchange system? Bear in mind I'm playing devil's advocate here, but it sounds to me like you're overcomplicating what's little more than just a moist wooden box.
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I believe Spanish Cedar also acts a natural mold inhibitor? no?
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Hmmm, at this point, I'm honestly wondering one thing: why make it so complicated? From what you've hinted, it's going to be a feat of engineering just to build it. From all of the engineering projects I've helped on and professors I've talked to, one of the golden rules of engineering sounds to be KISS (keep it simple, stupid). Why go to extreme lengths to build a humidor when simple is better in this case? Is it really worth it to put in an air-exchange system? Bear in mind I'm playing devil's advocate here, but it sounds to me like you're overcomplicating what's little more than just a moist wooden box.

It is actually going to be simpler than you think. However, my goal is to eliminate human involvement. By precharging new air to the appropriate humidity, forcing out stale air, and then flowing in fresh atmosphere, I can leave the humidor alone for long periods of time without opening or worrying about whether or not the cigars are getting what they need.

Furthermore, by avoiding glycol/sponges and beads altogether, I can limit the exposure to refined chemicals by using a sealed evaporator to charge the air.

I guess my point is that it is really very simple, it just sounds complicated. There are lots of details that need ironing out is all. And that is what real world engineering is all about. Details. (And lots of assumptions).
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Ask Ron. He could help you since he is almost finish with his humidor. RGD HUMIDOR PROJECT
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It is actually going to be simpler than you think. However, my goal is to eliminate human involvement. By precharging new air to the appropriate humidity, forcing out stale air, and then flowing in fresh atmosphere, I can leave the humidor alone for long periods of time without opening or worrying about whether or not the cigars are getting what they need.
Cool! So are we talking osmosis, osmotic pressure and chit like that?

Using the KISS principle - you could always take an Oasis (or any humidifier), install a hard water line with fill valve - take care of the humidity. Timed fan on a gated vent would cover your air exchange also - but I don't see air exchange as a required and/or necessary factor.

Good luck though - sounds fascinating - can't wait to see what you work out -

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Ok, you guys (that aren't EE's) can't imagine how incredibly complicated this has already become. I will let you all see my design in about a month.
I can't wait. I love stuff like this. God what I could do with a proper garage and some power tools. I'd probably turn every end-table in my home into stealth humidors. hehe.
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I can't wait. I love stuff like this. God what I could do with a proper garage and some power tools. I'd probably turn every end-table in my home into stealth humidors. hehe.
I am already having delusions of a pimp 10 stick for my car somewhere. But where....
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