A couple of Tats recently haven't really suited me...

[sonick]

Originally Posted by montecristo#2

Did you smoke them straight from the B&M or did you store them for a little while? If you did store them, what RH were they at?

The only reason I ask is that I have never had a Tatuaje that burned bad. Occasionally one will be slightly tight, but honestly, I can't remember any with serious burn problems. As others have mentioned, these really need to be stored around 65% or lower, otherwise they absorb too much moisture.

In terms of flavor, that is obviously going to depend on your tastes. Personally, I like certain vitolas in the Miami-made series, find the Havana VI a little too sharp/intense (the only way I can describe the flavor profile which is not necessary full-bodied) and think the Series P are rather mild. To me, the series P taste similar to the Havana VI, just not as intense. I actually prefer the series P over the Havana VI.

Well, I have to admit that every single one I've smoked were fresh from the B&M, as in no more than a day after purchase, and the humidor was around 70-72%. Given that can cause disproportionate burning of the thick wrapper compared to the filler, I can see how it would affect taste, burn, and whether drawing well or not. I may actually give them another chance, I just need to make sure I try one that's actually been kept more at the 60-65% RH.....

Tim

I guess we kinda got spoiled with that box split of P1's! Those babies smoked 100% great straight out of the box. I have had almost 100% satisfaction with the Tats, but actually had my first bad one about a week and a half ago. It was a Brown label, about the same size as a Boli PC.

That one lit up with an immediate (and I do mean immediate, first puff while lighting) harshness. The stick burned well, but after 1/3 of the stick, and still the same, exact harsh taste, the remaining 2/3 made the arched flight from the front porch to the driveway. I think this was a "mid-life" stick; not new, but not old. Probably was around 6 months old. It came out of my humi with all my other loose Tats, so I know humidity wasn't an issue, as I have smoked several from the humi in the last weeks, and none were harsh. This stick tasted like it had been lit "hot", then hot-box smoked for about 10 minutes for a nice harsh super-heated, burning type of a taste.

It was the first and only Tat I have had problems with. It would make me wonder about smoking Tats fresh if we did not have the positive experiences with the P1s!

[montecristo#2]

Originally Posted by sonick

Well, I have to admit that every single one I've smoked were fresh from the B&M, as in no more than a day after purchase, and the humidor was around 70-72%. Given that can cause disproportionate burning of the thick wrapper compared to the filler, I can see how it would affect taste, burn, and whether drawing well or not. I may actually give them another chance, I just need to make sure I try one that's actually been kept more at the 60-65% RH.....

Yeh, I might definitely give them another try after they have had a chance to rest 3-6 months in your humi, assuming you have one set at 65%. Some B&M's store their walk-ins closer to 75%, since people are constantly going in and out.

Do you recall which sizes you have tried?

For anyone who wants to try the Tatuajes, I would recommend starting with the noellas and moving on from there. The Cojonu 2003's are very good, but need some rest. I have only had one of the cojonu 2006's and it was mighty full-bodied. I have heard these need at least a year or so to really start calming down. If someone likes cigars that are full-bodied, I would try the Reserva J21's.

[DennisP]

Originally Posted by montecristo#2

For anyone who wants to try the Tatuajes, I would recommend starting with the noellas and moving on from there. The Cojonu 2003's are very good, but need some rest. I have only had one of the cojonu 2006's and it was mighty full-bodied. I have heard these need at least a year or so to really start calming down. If someone likes cigars that are full-bodied, I would try the Reserva J21's.

The J21 was the first Tat I smoked and I fell in love with it. It was straight from the B&M humi, so burn was somewhat uneven, flavor was amazing.

Since then I've tried the Noella and the Havana Cazadores, both of which I loved. I have a box of the Noellas on the way from Holt's right now.

[TideRoll]

Originally Posted by SvilleKid

Tim

I guess we kinda got spoiled with that box split of P1's! Those babies smoked 100% great straight out of the box. I have had almost 100% satisfaction with the Tats, but actually had my first bad one about a week and a half ago. It was a Brown label, about the same size as a Boli PC.

That one lit up with an immediate (and I do mean immediate, first puff while lighting) harshness. The stick burned well, but after 1/3 of the stick, and still the same, exact harsh taste, the remaining 2/3 made the arched flight from the front porch to the driveway. I think this was a "mid-life" stick; not new, but not old. Probably was around 6 months old. It came out of my humi with all my other loose Tats, so I know humidity wasn't an issue, as I have smoked several from the humi in the last weeks, and none were harsh. This stick tasted like it had been lit "hot", then hot-box smoked for about 10 minutes for a nice harsh super-heated, burning type of a taste.

It was the first and only Tat I have had problems with. It would make me wonder about smoking Tats fresh if we did not have the positive experiences with the P1s!

My thoughts exactly as it relates to fresh vs. boxed a while. Sure, they age well, but until these, I've yet to have one that didn't taste really nice no matter when I smoked it relative to humidor time.

Thankfully, my problem stick to good stick ratio with the Tat line is still somewhere less than 1:10. The stick I had in Florida that didn't impress but didn't just suck was the Noella (sp?), so in this case, it wasn't just a raw "big" stick that brought the question up. I'm going to pull one out of my pre-existing stock within the next day or so to make sure something funky hasn't been going on in my humidor, but other non-Tat sticks out of the same box have been just fine recently. Then again, maybe something is going on with my taste buds. I sure hope not.

[rumballs]

can't you get those removed?






i've only had one tatuaje and it didn't suit me, fwiw (probably nothing)