Rush speaks on the proposed cigar tax increase

[PadronMe]

Stamp Act of 2007. Taxation without representation, because congress these days sure don't represent me of 95% of America.

I wish we had the vigor of our fathers.

Maybe we should burn all cigars in one giant bonfire in protest. jk

[carni]

see i though the gov't was to better our economy, help support capitalism. apparently i was wrong. they continue to chip away at a fair market society acting more like a monopoly than a group of public appointed represenatitves.

maybe we should have a dc herf on capital hill, that would be very cool.

[clampdown]

Originally Posted by RETSF

I've already emailed my congressmen. The current leadership in both the house and senate are socialists, just like stalin, lenin and all the other Big Brothers past and present - they know whats best for us....."A new Direction" was how it was put by ole Nancy Pelosie.....gotta admit she does keep her promises. Tobacco, free speech and ammo sales today mandated religion and all the other freedoms down the road.

I think comparing any member of our Congress Stalin (who by the way murdered more men, women and children then did Hitler) is going a bit far. Maybe someone like Chavez would be a bit closer

[RJT]

Originally Posted by adsantos13

This proposed tax is horrendous, but lets not forget that anti-smoking bills in general get plenty of support from both sides of the aisle. As do bills which allow the government to look into my credit card statements, listen to my phone calls, and dictate what I can and cannot do in my leisure time (Online Poker Ban for example). IMO, nobody in DC seem to be in any hurry to stop the erosion of our basic rights as Americans...

Sorry, carry on...

[tuneman07]

Originally Posted by carni

maybe we should have a dc herf on capital hill, that would be very cool.

I like that idea million man smoke.... we could even all bring those dangerous sticks from Cuba, o wait nevermind that would lead to rampant communism I forgot sorry.

[coffeemonkey]

Originally Posted by PadronMe

Stamp Act of 2007. Taxation without representation, because congress these days sure don't represent me of 95% of America.

I wish we had the vigor of our fathers.

Maybe we should burn all cigars in one giant bonfire in protest. jk

If they don't represent 95% of America, why does 51% of America vote them in?

You get what you pay for.

[tippytwo]

[SIZE="2"]You can read this bill yourself(took me a while to find this..check out page #3):

http://www.senate.gov/~finance/sitep...1307%20JCT.pdf[/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]It says that cigars will be taxed at 53.13% of the sale price. That still sucks hardcore!! What the bills says, is that the 53.13% tax will NOT EXCEED $10. It doesn't mean that that every cigar will be taxed $10. [/SIZE]

You'd need a cigar to cost $18.80 for it to be taxed an extra $10. Which would make the total price of your cigar $28.10.

So a box of cigars that now costs $50 would cost $76.56 under this current bill. A cigar that costs you $5 at a store would cost $7.65 under this bill.

I got my math confused from reading a previous article in another thread. But this is directly from the bill itself.

-T2

[The Mum]

we all need to e mail our State Senators and tell them to vote t down.
I did that today. All the cigar companies are sending notices out to e mail your Senators.

[Trout]

Originally Posted by coffeemonkey

If they don't represent 95% of America, why does 51% of America vote them in?

You get what you pay for.

I agree in some ways. But when then choice is between the lesser of two evils it's hard to blame to public. If that's what you meant.

[Cheeto]

ok this is a little bit of a thread jack, but the link was on Rush's website so...

http://www.finckcigarcompany.com/fin...lovers_200706/

Sounds good to me, any opinions on if this deal is worth it?

[MeNimbus]

The $10 tax on each cigar is ludicrous. I might as well just give the government my money now and avoid the inevitable.

[jrw]

I emailed my California Senators, Feinstein and Boxer, today. Another thread here says that the amended portion of the health care bill raising tobacco taxes and attaching the proceeds for child health care didn't make it into the final version. I hope this to be true, and I hope that my Senators will be dissuaded from voting in favor when it comes around again (and undoubtedly it will.)

[tippytwo]

Originally Posted by MeNimbus

The $10 tax on each cigar is ludicrous. I might as well just give the government my money now and avoid the inevitable.

http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showpos...0&postcount=22

Refer to my post a few above yours.

This bill is basically a 53% sales tax on cigars. The $10 is the MAXIMUM of the 53% they can charge you per cigar.

I'M NOT DEFENDING THE BILL! I want to make that clear to everyone. Still send in your letters and call. I plan to. But, I just want to get the facts straight and it will help in our efforts to fight it.

-T2

[tuneman07]

Originally Posted by coffeemonkey

If they don't represent 95% of America, why does 51% of America vote them in?

You get what you pay for.

I didn't vote for the people we get to vote for.... We have ZERO power- think about it every time we vote we have 2 people to choose from, anyone else think that is rediculous?

[KnightKrusher]

Well here is just one more thing that the Government (Big Brother) Is going to put their hand in and cause all kinds of problems and for a bill that will not do what they want it to do. I e-mail my senators today. do you think they read these e-mail?