What do you think about this research project?

[Artoud]

Originally Posted by radar

Compost. There's another thread regarding the ISOM smell

This is great. Of course an experiment is the only real way to find the true answer. radar's comment makes me wonder if, rather than oxidation, the bulk of the aging comes from biological activity. Changing the temp should affect the biota involved, and probably the flavor. Maybe we'll finally discover a way to knock off an ISOM perfectly?

[radar]

Originally Posted by Artoud

Maybe we'll finally discover a way to knock off an ISOM perfectly?

If Sean can do that, he'll need a process patent and a new banker! He'll already have a new neighbor, me!

[pinoyman]

I think it'll work, it will defininetly changed, taste and appearance.
I've tried it before, but nothing like those extreme set point.
this might give you an idea (I hope)
I used cayman summer temp. an average of 92F and humidified the cigars at 78RH for two months inside a wooden cab.
it was an Esplendidos, the wrapper is nothing like a nature aged cigar, it lost most of the oil but still intact and no splits.
the taste changed yes, you can still taste the Esplendido signature tone but somehow the cigar complexcity is gone. It is more like one taste from start to finish. must be my set points! I will be glad to hear the result of your reseach, and i think that is a good setpoint. IMHO

Goodluck Senor!

Salud

[pinoyman]

Originally Posted by radar

If Sean can do that, he'll need a process patent and a new banker! He'll already have a new neighbor, me!

Hey Radar! one more post and its your 1,000th!!!

[radar]

Originally Posted by pinoyman

Hey Radar! one more post and its your 1,000th!!!

May as well use it here. I received the cigars from you and Hollywood today, thank you so much my friend!

[pinoyman]

Originally Posted by radar

May as well use it here. I received the cigars from you and Hollywood today, thank you so much my friend!

You are very welcome! I just want to hear your thoughts Amigo about the UFO's Mucho ligeros. then it's the newbies turn!
[SIZE=3]Congrats on your 1,000 post! [/SIZE] It's been a pleasure learning with you.



Salud!

[radar]

Originally Posted by pinoyman

You are very welcome! I just want to hear your thoughts Amigo about the UFO's Mucho ligeros. then it's the newbies turn!

Salud!

I will smoke one in a few days, after I let them recover from their journey. I sent your package via Express Mail today, I think you'll be pleased.

[pinoyman]

Originally Posted by radar

I will smoke one in a few days, after I let them recover from their journey. I sent your package via Express Mail today, I think you'll be pleased.

Muchas Gracias Senor!

[radar]

Originally Posted by pinoyman

Muchas Gracias Senor!

Mi placer !!

[D. Generate]

My curiosity is piqued. I think this is an interesting idea and I'm looking forward to hearing the results. I have trouble with temptation and leaving my cigars alone to age. So if this works I might have to invest in an EZ Bake oven.

[MattK]

Originally Posted by txmatt

Well at least he isn't sticking his head in the oven!!


-Matt-

Huhh???? What is that supposed to mean?

[galaga]

Originally Posted by MattK

Huhh???? What is that supposed to mean?

It took awhile but I finally remembered A blast from the past as it were!

[SeanGAR]

Originally Posted by pinoyman

I used cayman summer temp. an average of 92F and humidified the cigars at 78RH for two months inside a wooden cab.
it was an Esplendidos, the wrapper is nothing like a nature aged cigar, it lost most of the oil but still intact and no splits.

Wow, it will be a long time before a Cuban gets in my model system LOL. I'm using this as a potential way to get past the ammonia stage in less expensive cigars rather than to try and make a 4 month old habano taste like its 4 years old - there is only so much I think this will do well.

Your point about the oils is quite good - I don't actually expect it is feasible to do this and maintain the quality of something like a Cohiba, but we'll see how well it works on cheap cigars first. I assume from your post that you would have preferred the un-heat treated esplendidos over the heated ones?

[Cartierusm]

I would suggest if you haven't done it already to set the same type, batch and number of cigars aside that you are experimenting with so the test subject won't know what he/she's smoking but can compare 2 of the same cigar. That way they can tell if there was any change. If you are not going to do that I suggest using test subjects that smoke the type you are testing regularly.

[SeanGAR]

Originally Posted by Cartierusm

I would suggest if you haven't done it already to set the same type, batch and number of cigars aside that you are experimenting with so the test subject won't know what he/she's smoking but can compare 2 of the same cigar. That way they can tell if there was any change. If you are not going to do that I suggest using test subjects that smoke the type you are testing regularly.

Yup. I randomly split up 12 of each of the 2 cigars used into treated and non treated batches. I'll use three digit random codes and provide them to the sucker ..er...taster. I'll have 2 cigars, 6 replications so can send one pair to each of 12 people. I'm thinking of doing a simple test, get them to light them up side by side, and tell me a simple preference. With 12 judgements, I need 10 to prefer the heat treated cigar to reach 5% significance level.