Mayor Nagin and the Chocolate Factory

[SeanGAR]

Originally Posted by Hammerhead

In the meantime if you can find any evidence that Lott is 'racist', I'd like to see it.

"Many, many of the attacks on Lott are very simple self-exculpation by non-association. Indeed, self-exculpation has been an obsession of white people since the civil rights era or before. I actually do not believe that Lott is any more of a racist than the average white American: but he seems to be one of the few white Americans who still hasn't reached a complete understanding of what you say and what you do not say."

http://www.crispinsartwell.com/trent.htm

[vic_c]

Originally Posted by Hammerhead

Please. Don't get me started. Y'all know where I'm at, so I don't want to stir the pot. But to paraphrase what I heard on the radio the other day, one wonders what would happen if a natural disaster hit Utah, and the Mayor of Salt Lake City said he was going to make it a Vanilla city again.

Funny how the double standard never gets quite the airtime, but when someone like Trent Lott even by accident says something that could be remotely twisted, they're run out of town on a rail.

Bias in the press? Nah! Say it ain't so.

And for those of you junkies that just can't get enough, check out Ann Coulter's piece in TownHall. She's a firebrand, that one.
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/colu...18/182946.html

Yeah What he said!

[Hammerhead]

Originally Posted by SeanGAR

"Many, many of the attacks on Lott are very simple self-exculpation by non-association...

Absence of evidence is not proof. But if it's anecdotal evidence you'd like, I'd definitely be willing to make a list of race-baiting comments by party affiliation, and see who "wins".

[SeanGAR]

Originally Posted by Hammerhead

Absence of evidence is not proof. But if it's anecdotal evidence you'd like, I'd definitely be willing to make a list of race-baiting comments by party affiliation, and see who "wins".

I agree with you.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by Hammerhead

Dude, if it's racism you're after, I'd suggest you pay close attention to the statements coming out of the likes of Hillary, Nagins, and the "usual suspects". Plantation? Chocolate?

Watch where you throw those stones. Glass is sharp.

1994 - Former GOP House Speaker Newt Gingrich, shortly before Republicans won a majority in the House, in which he said Democrats "think it's their job to run the plantation" and that "it shocks them that I'm actually willing to lead the slave rebellion."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/...on.plantation/

[Blueface]

Nagin was in the news today explaining his comments.
He says blacks use the term "chocolate" all the time.
He says he has used that term many times, even in DC.
He says he does not apologize for that part of his statement.
He believes where he crossed the line was when he brought God into the statement.
He also did say he acknowledges he made mistakes during the evacuation and should have used the citie's buses to evacuate citizens.

There you have it. The latest attempt to move the foot around his mouth to a more tolerable and comfortable position.

I am not racist nor condone it. However, I saw some earlier inferences in this thread to double standards and couldn't help but raise the following points. PLEASE don't be offended and accept my apologies in advance. Would never say this to intentionally offend anyone but it is merely an observation of double standards.

Can you ever, ever imagine any of the following:
Pearl Magazine, yet there is Ebony Magazine
Miss White America, yet there is Miss Black America
White Forum, yet there is the TV show Black Forum
White Music Awards, yet there is the Black Music Awards
The list of similar examples goes on and on.

I believe there should be no tolerance to racism but why is it tolerable to reverse discriminate?

[carbonbased_al]

Originally Posted by Hammerhead

In the meantime if you can find any evidence that Lott is 'racist', I'd like to see it.

"I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either." - Trent Lott

Your right Rob.We all know Thurmond was a forerunner in the battle for civil rights

[DonWeb]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Nagin was in the news today...

Nagin is an idiot... nuff said.

Originally Posted by Blueface

Can you ever, ever imagine any of the following:
Pearl Magazine, yet there is Ebony Magazine
Miss White America, yet there is Miss Black America
White Forum, yet there is the TV show Black Forum
White Music Awards, yet there is the Black Music Awards
The list of similar examples goes on and on.

successful attempts at exploiting market segmentation (and erecting entry barriers)...certainly is fodder for conversation about double standards though
(what's good for the goose indeed!)

Originally Posted by Blueface

I believe there should be no tolerance to racism but why is it tolerable to reverse discriminate?

agreed...racism is racism -- in forward or reverse.

[The Prince]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Nagin was in the news today explaining his comments.
He says blacks use the term "chocolate" all the time.
He says he has used that term many times, even in DC.
He says he does not apologize for that part of his statement.
He believes where he crossed the line was when he brought God into the statement.
He also did say he acknowledges he made mistakes during the evacuation and should have used the citie's buses to evacuate citizens.

There you have it. The latest attempt to move the foot around his mouth to a more tolerable and comfortable position.

I am not racist nor condone it. However, I saw some earlier inferences in this thread to double standards and couldn't help but raise the following points. PLEASE don't be offended and accept my apologies in advance. Would never say this to intentionally offend anyone but it is merely an observation of double standards.

Can you ever, ever imagine any of the following:
Pearl Magazine, yet there is Ebony Magazine
Miss White America, yet there is Miss Black America
White Forum, yet there is the TV show Black Forum
White Music Awards, yet there is the Black Music Awards
The list of similar examples goes on and on.

I believe there should be no tolerance to racism but why is it tolerable to reverse discriminate?

Great post.

[mikey202]

Originally Posted by Blueface

Nagin was in the news today explaining his comments.
He says blacks use the term "chocolate" all the time.
He says he has used that term many times, even in DC.
He says he does not apologize for that part of his statement.
He believes where he crossed the line was when he brought God into the statement.
He also did say he acknowledges he made mistakes during the evacuation and should have used the citie's buses to evacuate citizens.

There you have it. The latest attempt to move the foot around his mouth to a more tolerable and comfortable position.

I am not racist nor condone it. However, I saw some earlier inferences in this thread to double standards and couldn't help but raise the following points. PLEASE don't be offended and accept my apologies in advance. Would never say this to intentionally offend anyone but it is merely an observation of double standards.

Can you ever, ever imagine any of the following:
Pearl Magazine, yet there is Ebony Magazine
Miss White America, yet there is Miss Black America
White Forum, yet there is the TV show Black Forum
White Music Awards, yet there is the Black Music Awards
The list of similar examples goes on and on.

I believe there should be no tolerance to racism but why is it tolerable to reverse discriminate?

Why should you apologize or feel guilty about pointing out the truth about double standards? Just because certian people can handle the truth about some issues doesn't make you wrong for having the stones for saying it!!

[etenpenny]

More then reverse racism, Im sick and tired or the double standard that says one person can use racial charged remarks to further their own political aspirations due only to the fact that they operate under SELF perpetrated illusion (with some of the American people) that they care more for this race then the other guy, when in fact they dont give a care in the world for that race any more then it will further their political future!

[Scott M]

Originally Posted by carbonbased_al

"I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either." - Trent Lott

Yep...say something off the cuff about some older coworker on his birthday and it's racial. Definately racial.

[Bigga Petey]

Political, religous, and race threads are a lot of fun.

Everybody has an opinion.
Interesting to see how one's age also figures in to their viewpoint, be it liberal or conservative.

btw~ On the news last night, they were showing how NO has taken on a definite Hispanic flavor with all the Mexican workers that have come in to do the dirty work.

[Hammerhead]

Joe, if you listened to the rest of the speech, and understood the context, it was simply a kind thing to say to an old man at his birthday party. I think it's worth examining how you arrive at Trent Lott being 'racist'. But if it's true racism you're after, send a note to Robert Byrd and ask him who does his sheets - they're all so crispy white.

[Bigga Petey]

Originally Posted by Hammerhead

Joe, if you listened to the rest of the speech, and understood the context, it was simply a kind thing to say to an old man at his birthday party. I think it's worth examining how you arrive at Trent Lott being 'racist'. But if it's true racism you're after, send a note to Robert Byrd and ask him who does his sheets - they're all so crispy white.

For sure....

If one pays attention to some recent history, the Democrats for the most part voted against the civil rights act in the 60's which the Republicans sposored. Now the Democrats pander to that constituency.