What's Your Favorite American Muscle Car ?

[tx_tuff]

So because I don't like that ugly a$$ bow tie you want to pick on my grammer, classic! By the way just because I didn't paste and cut I was right by what I said. And they are called Pony Cars for a reason, the Mustang!

[Yellowfever]

OK Ok, no fighting. Let me settle this for you guys. Both your Chevy and Ford will have the paint fading in less than 5 years. It will be rattling from who knows where, and Government Motors probably won't be around to service it.

Now shake hands and go buy a car from Europe..

Originally Posted by tx_tuff

So because I don't like that ugly a$$ bow tie you want to pick on my grammer, classic! By the way just because I didn't paste and cut I was right by what I said. And they are called Pony Cars for a reason, the Mustang!

[Showtyme5]

Originally Posted by Yellowfever

OK Ok, no fighting. Let me settle this for you guys. Both your Chevy and Ford will have the paint fading in less than 5 years. It will be rattling from who knows where, and Government Motors probably won't be around to service it.

Now shake hands and go buy a car from Europe..

Bimmers and Benzes are way overrated, if that's what you're implying. Porsche, on the other hand, is a different story.

[mrreindeer]

Originally Posted by tx_tuff

That's the one, but hey I said since I was a KID LOL. But I do think that is the only car or truck that can pull off the yellow. Newer cars with it just looks bad!

Seriously, you all can blow a goat...this is the best car out there:

Originally Posted by Yellowfever

Now shake hands and go buy a car from Europe..

[Neighbor]

Originally Posted by Neighbor

SS now stands for "Saved by the Stimulus" ! Since you're waiting on it , what about the GT500 or the Roush package Stang . They'll be just like the rest of them Bowties , like their comercial says " Like a rock " . A rock sits in the yard with grass growing around it and it can't move .

Gotta love Drag Strip smack talk .

Bump with mega dittos .

[Yellowfever]

Originally Posted by Showtyme5

Bimmers and Benzes are way overrated, if that's what you're implying. Porsche, on the other hand, is a different story.

I am implying BMW, Porsche and Rover. Quality is 100% superior to American. Took me a year at doing insurance appraisals years ago to see that. Everything from the quality of paint, to the gaps on the doors/trunks/quarter panels to the interior quality, hands down the Germans know what they are doing. As for Rover, reliability not so much, but it is a Rover so I cut it some slack. 3 years and 70k miles on my last BMW not one problem. And all maintenance included! You can't beat that...

[mrreindeer]

Did you just say ROVER? You must be a Trojan.



Hahhahahaa...... ROVER.

[Yellowfever]

I figured BMW was more of a Trojan car. I saw more of those than anything. But I like to off road and camp out and if you are going to do it you may as well do it in style, right? Plus out of the box they are the best off road. Why smoke a Swisher Sweet when there are Cubans available?

Originally Posted by mrreindeer

Did you just say ROVER? You must be a Trojan.



Hahhahahaa...... ROVER.

[Egis]

Originally Posted by Yellowfever

I figured BMW was more of a Trojan car. I saw more of those than anything. But I like to off road and camp out and if you are going to do it you may as well do it in style, right? Plus out of the box they are the best off road. Why smoke a Swisher Sweet when there are Cubans available?

I'm with you German cars make the most reliable cars ever! Mazda-Ford= Equals same thing, breaks non stop, transmissions are garbage!!! But we can go on non stop!

But for Muscle cars- I like Chevelle SS 454, I like the looks!
But my dream Super car is Ferrari ENZO FXX, you can't beat it! and Mercedes SL Brabus
And for regular production Fast cars, you can take any time, a Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, and it's gonna be faster then any Mustang, or Chevy or BMW, or whatever, but not as fast as a Super car affcors!
Like someone said earlier lets compare apple to apple, not watermelon too apple!

[Yellowfever]

Nice, Enzo. I am more a Lambo fan but the Enzo is bad. My old boss when I was in the mortgage industy had an Enzo, Porshche GT, Maybach, and MB SLR!!! (among others) I just had to sit there and drool everytime I walked by his parking spot at work!!

If I had to pick a classic American it would probably be a 69 Camero SS. It was always my dad's favorite car as I was growing up. He is a die hard Chevy guy.

[tx_tuff]

To all the american car bashers, when is the last time you owned an American car or truck? I put tons of miles on mine and have never had a problem!

Now I don't care what you drive, just like smoke what you like. But I have pride in what I drive and if they where pieces of crap it wouldn't be in my drive way.

[uvacom]

Originally Posted by Neighbor

Ford has an answer for your Porsche too .



Love friendly smack talking .

The A/C Cobra was just as much British as at was American/Ford. The cars produced before 1965 The Mk. III did have more involvement from Ford, admittedly. But nonetheless, Ford does have an reputation unrivaled by any other US manufacturer for its ability to compete on an international level in racing, and in many ways this began with the A/C Cobra.

But let's get a real picture of the car up instead of some cheesy deformed CGI cartoon, shall we?



My personal favorite of the A/C Cobras was the 289 Le Mans coupé. Only three of these were ever produced. One of these raced in the 1963 Le Mans and probably had the performance to win (a similar Cobra coupé did a top speed of 185 mph, blindingly fast for that time), but it was disqualified when the carter was punctured and they had to replace the oil prematurely.



I will also give Ford credit for producing probably the most successful engine of all time in the Cosworth DFV. This engine was behind 12 Formula 1 driver's championships in 14 years (from 1968-1982). It won 2 Le Mans 24 hour races. The turbocharged variant won 10 Indy 500 races. It is responsible for countless races won in lower series such as CART, F3000, etc.

My personal favorite of the cars powered by the DFV is the 1978 Lotus 79 -



Let's also not forget the Ford GT40 which claimed an absolute dynasty at Le Mans in the late 60s, winning 4 years in a row. Aside from that, it is also one of the most beautiful cars in auto history, standing up to the test of time better than any other vehicle -



Ford also has an unparalleled commitment to Rally, and has raced virtually continuously from 1936-present. I'm not quite as familiar with this branch of motorsport, but suffice to say that it's a safe bet that more Escorts, Fiestas, and Focuses (Focii?) have raced in rally than any other manufacturer. I have a particular fondness for the brutally powerful (450 HP from a 1.8L engine in a car that only weighed 2300 pounds) Group B RS200 -



Yes, GM has had perennial success with the Corvette in Le Mans and other GT series, but nobody has had as much impact in as many aspects of motor racing as Ford.

[uvacom]

Originally Posted by tx_tuff

To all the american car bashers, when is the last time you owned an American car or truck? I put tons of miles on mine and have never had a problem!

Now I don't care what you drive, just like smoke what you like. But I have pride in what I drive and if they where pieces of crap it wouldn't be in my drive way.

I won't bash american cars. I've only owned two cars (including the one I currently drive), but I will say this. The 94 Honda Civic I drove for many years before I finally sold last year with 250,000 miles was faster, more fuel efficient, more comfortable, more responsive, more reliable, and (IMO) prettier than the 2001 Ford Focus which replaced it.

I think tradition is a big reason people buy american cars, because I just don't see them competing on price, performance, or features. Well, unless you drive a pickup. I don't know much about pickups but the US manufacturers appear to be pretty competitive in that arena. Maybe there are some Tundra drivers out there who would disagree, I don't know.

[Cigary]

This is what I used to drive when I was in high school,,,this sucker was quick and chirped rubber in all 4 gears.

[Showtyme5]

Originally Posted by Yellowfever

I am implying BMW, Porsche and Rover. Quality is 100% superior to American. Took me a year at doing insurance appraisals years ago to see that. Everything from the quality of paint, to the gaps on the doors/trunks/quarter panels to the interior quality, hands down the Germans know what they are doing. As for Rover, reliability not so much, but it is a Rover so I cut it some slack. 3 years and 70k miles on my last BMW not one problem. And all maintenance included! You can't beat that...

You stated that Rover Quality is 100% superior to American cars, right? Range Rover Sport's look good but they have basically the worst quality on the planet. Actually, Land Rover is statistically THE WORST brand on the planet for quality and dependability.

Range Rover ranked second-to-last in the 2007 Consumer Reports (US) car reliability survey. (Mercedes took the bottom place.) In the same survey, the LR3/Discovery with a V8 engine was ranked the second least reliable SUV in the midsized category. (The 2006 model year M-class of Mercedes took the last place in that category.)

• It also was ranked as one of the 3 least reliable over the last 10 years in 2007.

Land Rover got 2 out of 5 points in JD Power's 2009 Initial Quality survey. Cadillac got 5, Chevy got 3, Buick got 3, Ford got 3......

How about reliability (per JD Power)?

Land Rover gets 2 out of 5 while Buick gets 5, Cadillac gets 4, and Ford and Chevy each get 3.

hmmm