It's a wild world we're living in... does security exist?

[mrsmitty]

Wow I've never had this happen to me but our house has been robbed and we walked in the robbers, consequentially about 7-8 years later my sister married one of the robbers he has since changed into a rather great man. Anyways I'm glad to here you're safe. Were they caught on camera?

[TMMT]

Glad your okay, just reflect upon the situation and see if there is anything you can learn from it.

[SmokeRings]

Originally Posted by mrsmitty

Wow I've never had this happen to me but our house has been robbed and we walked in the robbers, consequentially about 7-8 years later my sister married one of the robbers he has since changed into a rather great man.

talk about irony smitty!!!

anyways, man Im glad your ok. I have also recently been contemplating the purchase of a fire arm. I live close to pembroke pines man, to think this happened there is really absurd, but I suppose it could happen to anyone, at anytime, anywhere. Like I said, Im glad your alive, maybe it wouldnt be a bad investment, but to think of what you would have done had you had a gun on you! just think, would you be able to live with yourself after that?
just hypothetical I suppose.

better travels in the future brother!

[joncaputo]

Unbelievable. Hell yes - get your concealed permit and get a glock and get lessons. Plain and simple. There are animals out there. And in florida we do not have to retreat - Ill give them whatever they want, but if it isnt enough Ill give them lead.

Thats my 2 cents

[Shervin]

Originally Posted by SMOKE20

Shervin we are glad to hear that you are okay. that is a frigtening experience. Go smoke a few good ones to feel better

Your avatar is making feel better already lol!

[Shervin]

Originally Posted by mrsmitty

Wow I've never had this happen to me but our house has been robbed and we walked in the robbers, consequentially about 7-8 years later my sister married one of the robbers he has since changed into a rather great man. Anyways I'm glad to here you're safe. Were they caught on camera?

That's one crazy story.... but a happy ending nonetheless.

[Shervin]

I'm looking into a Glock 27 or something similar, subcompact so that it conceals well (I'm not a big guy) but with enough to stop someone if need be.

Any guru's that can point me in the right direction as to what other similar makes, models I should consider???

I'm combing that forum you listed uncballzer, thanks!

[ffup]

I was not there obviosly, but a handgun in this case may have not helped. The key here is situational awareness. Being on the cell and not ever seeing the thugs untill there is a weapon to your stomach, a gun would not offer you much security or defense. Don't get me wrong I believe in carring everywhere all the time but I hope to never have to use it. To avoid a fight is much better than winning a fight. If you must fight be prepared, have a plan that has been practiced, see the fight coming, and be the first to attack.

Glad your OK hope the thugs are both caught.

[commonsenseman]

Originally Posted by joncaputo

Unbelievable. Hell yes - get your concealed permit and get a glock and get lessons. Plain and simple. There are animals out there. And in florida we do not have to retreat - Ill give them whatever they want, but if it isnt enough Ill give them lead.

Thats my 2 cents

Great advice, wish we had the same laws up here. I did hear some rumors about a castle-doctrine, but it never passed. As of now it's our obligation to retreat if at all possible.

Originally Posted by Shervin

I'm looking into a Glock 27 or something similar, subcompact so that it conceals well (I'm not a big guy) but with enough to stop someone if need be.

Any guru's that can point me in the right direction as to what other similar makes, models I should consider???

I'm combing that forum you listed uncballzer, thanks!

My dad carries a 27, he loves it. I carry a Kimber Ultra-Carry II, I also love mine. I know people who carry a Kahr, Para Ordinance, Taurus, Springfield XD, etc. Just depends on what you're looking for.

[Delsana]

Speaking from a type of experience, make sure to understand that while a gun may bring comfort, using it will most likely end up killing someone, and you'll have that death on your mind, despite their intentions, you'll have have committed a grave and irreversible act.

Another you could look into if you want to be safe but not dangerous, is a professional high-intensity taser, either handheld or fire-arm form.

[commonsenseman]

Originally Posted by Delsana

Speaking from a type of experience, make sure to understand that while a gun may bring comfort, using it will most likely end up killing someone, and you'll have that death on your mind, despite their intentions, you'll have have committed a grave and irreversible act.

Another you could look into if you want to be safe but not dangerous, is a professional high-intensity taser, either handheld or fire-arm form.

I would respectfully but strongly disagree. There have been instances where tasers don't stop a criminal, such as when drugs are involved. If a criminal is all hopped up on heroin a taser may not even phase them.

There is just no replacement for a .45, especially when it's either your life (or your family's lives), or the criminals. For me it's an easy decision, I WILL protect mine & my family's lives.

[nativetexan_1]

Holy cow, Batman!

That's some scary stuff. You just never know, do you. At least they left you physically unharmed. Sorry you had to experience a part of the lowlife that comes along with society.

You are right when you say "be aware" of your surroundings - at ALL times. I would add, "Be armed" (and trained.) Not that that is a guarantee, but if the situation allows (or demands), at least you have a fair chance.

Peace be to you, one of our BOTL's.

[Delsana]

There are indeed situations where a taser might not work of course the whole point of self defense is a situation in which you can react quickly enough, which generally requires some luck and skill and hopefully misfortune on the attacker, but that isn't always the case. However, tasers can go up into the millions of volts, and so there are some for... the more determined people.

[tx_tuff]

The best thing to do is always be aware of what is going on around you!! Always! Not only might you have seen these turds walking around outside and could have had 2nd thoughts about getting out of your car, or at least knowing where they where when you got out. But when stopping at a gas station like like always look inside before just walking in. Do you see the attendant? Do you see anybody in there at all? You just have to keep an open eye you never now what may be going on in there. Glad your ok and I'm sure you will look at things in a different light now, yes it sucks but this may help you in the long run.

[tx_tuff]

Originally Posted by ffup

I was not there obviosly, but a handgun in this case may have not helped. The key here is situational awareness. Being on the cell and not ever seeing the thugs untill there is a weapon to your stomach, a gun would not offer you much security or defense. Don't get me wrong I believe in carring everywhere all the time but I hope to never have to use it. To avoid a fight is much better than winning a fight. If you must fight be prepared, have a plan that has been practiced, see the fight coming, and be the first to attack.

Glad your OK hope the thugs are both caught.

After "but a handgun in this case may have not helped" I agree 100% with what you had to say.

As for the handgun may not of helped. There are a couple reasons I disagree with you. One is that action is a hell of a lot faster the reaction! I have seen this first hand (in training) under the same type thing. A gun drawn on somebody, the person with gun in hand a expert shooter, the other person pulls his gun from holster and shots before the expert can pull his trigger. Reason being is simple, action faster then reaction. Even the expert knew this guy was going to draw and shot his gun but his reaction was still slower. They did this like 10 times in a roll and the guy drawing from the holster always got the shot off first.

Another reason (maybe not in this case I don't know how well Shervin is trained with a gun). But these being two young punks I doubt they really knew what the hell they where doing with the gun and somebody who knows how to handle a gun would have a much better chance of taking control of what was going on. There has been cases where two people have emptied out guns that close to each other and neither one being shot! They panic and just pull the trigger without using any skills.

Now keep in mind I'm not saying just pull your gun and start shooting if you have some guy with a gun to your gut. Hell I prob would have given them my sh*t and as soon as they turn their attention off me to my car blasted their a$$! But more then likely pulled out my gun as they thought I was pulling out my money.

I'm talking just me here, Shervin did the right thing because he is safe and here talking about it.