North Korea and the "Bomb"

[Zoomschwortz]

Originally Posted by CEC_Tech

Just because the nuke had a small yield, does not mean it wasn't the size of a semi. I don't think they've got the technology to pull off anything grand yet.

If they have the technology, they didn't develop it themeselves, but China does have the technology. I would never be supprised to hear sometime in the future that China gave these mini nukes or the technology to N. Korea.

If what they set off was what they developed on their own, they don't have a missile large enough to lift it.

Originally Posted by CEC_Tech

Yeah, they could obliterate a city or two, but Just one of our warheads is enough to obliterate half of N. Korea. Hiroshima and Nagasaki times 100.
If they did launch, it would be killing themselves. Bunkers are now useless because of the bunker busters we now employ as well.

With our troops deployed in Afghanistan and iraq, we'd have no choice but to rely on surgical air strikes and the occasional nuke if need be. Not a problem I'm sure.

I'm glad bush is in office, finally someone with the balls deal with the wackos. break out the trident missles!

All the more reason they wouldn't launch. With their missile technology, they would be lucky to get within miles of what they wanted to hit and we would know where it was coming from before it got here. Same thing with an EMP, we would know where it came from and could take them out.

On the other hand, they could use a suitcase bomb that would be hard to trace, and take out exactly what they want to take out.

I wonder if we continued working on the neutron bomb after they pulled the plug on it

[IHT]

i didn't read a single post in here, don't want to get into political discussions.

thought i'd add a couple funny links though.

kim jong il - dong
super cat whoopin azz
he likes to eat at wendys
chicks dig nukes
can't get it up - emo
he plays "command and conquer"
i don't know what to title this one, but funny
he's so lonely
marvin the martian impression
young kim jong il sings

Originally Posted by CEC_Tech

With our troops deployed in Afghanistan and iraq, we'd have no choice but to rely on surgical air strikes and the occasional nuke if need be. Not a problem I'm sure.

okay, so i read a post after i posted.

i just wanted to say 1 thing in regards to this. (to make it clear - i'm not equating what you said to the same as what the CNN anchors said, it just reminded me of last week)
while i was 11 miles from the DMZ last week, i saw on CNN one of the females of asian decent ask one of their military analysts if we were going to have to deploy troops to S. Korea??!!
i'm standing in a burger king, on post at camp casey, and the soldiers all kinda looked up at the TV and you could see the expressions on their faces... i actually said, "i guess you guys don't exist."
talk about fuggin dumb. just like the other CNN anchor who was blaming the army for teaching their soldiers to SHOOT A WEAPON??!!! in reference to the DC sniper, who was a mechanic in the army. she wanted to know why the army taught a mechanic to shoot a rifle?? no chit, i can't make something like that up.

[Zoomschwortz]

Originally Posted by IHT

i didn't read a single post in here, don't want to get into political discussions.

thought i'd add a couple funny links though.

kim jong il - dong
super cat whoopin azz
he likes to eat at wendys
chicks dig nukes
can't get it up - emo
he plays "command and conquer"
i don't know what to title this one, but funny
he's so lonely
marvin the martian impression
young kim jong il sings


okay, so i read a post after i posted.

i just wanted to say 1 thing in regards to this. (to make it clear - i'm not equating what you said to the same as what the CNN anchors said, it just reminded me of last week)
while i was 11 miles from the DMZ last week, i saw on CNN one of the females of asian decent ask one of their military analysts if we were going to have to deploy troops to S. Korea??!!
i'm standing in a burger king, on post at camp casey, and the soldiers all kinda looked up at the TV and you could see the expressions on their faces... i actually said, "i guess you guys don't exist."
talk about fuggin dumb. just like the other CNN anchor who was blaming the army for teaching their soldiers to SHOOT A WEAPON??!!! in reference to the DC sniper, who was a mechanic in the army. she wanted to know why the army taught a mechanic to shoot a rifle?? no chit, i can't make something like that up.

I want to thank you and your buddies for serving.
I can't believe how stupid these people are.
In the song "Dirty Laundry" the words are "I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear" gawd it is so true.

A few years ago they were showing the first bolt action AK47 I have ever seen on TV

It's bad enough that these people get to vote, but, it makes me sick to think of all the dunder heads that will follow their lead and vote the same way because they are on TV.

Nothing on CNN supprises me any more. Heck, just the other day Ted Turner was upset because Bush said 'If your not with us, your against us". Ted thought that was unfair because he hadn't made up his mind yet. Hello Ted, is there anybody in there???

You guys take care and thanks again.
Ken

[j6ppc]

A quick look at the Nth Country Experiment suggests that building a functional device is easier than one might think assuming that fissionable material is available.

The suprise IMHO is that North Korea has taken this long to have a functional device.

Proliferation is proceeding at an increased pace- Iran is certainly not too far behind N. Korea and may well be ahead in some ways considering that Iran has more hard currency to spend and (likely) a better pool of scientists than N. Korea.

Considering the level of historical support N. Korea has received from China over the last 55 years or so I also wonder if Chinese approval is not at least implied by the sucessful test...

I hate to be pessimistic but believe that the danger of a nuclear exchange has not diminished in the least since the cold war's end; quite the opposite in fact.

Also interesting is that G. Bush's rhetoric towards N. Korea has become more moderate over the past week or so -- perhaps tacit acknowledgement that kid gloves are in order now that they (the North Koreans) may well have additional devices at their disposal.

Either way the genie has been out of the bottle since Trinity and time will tell where/when it will again be uncorked in earnest.

Honestly, I don't like this one bit. If not North Korea then the list of likely suspects is large indeed.

[AAlmeter]

Procrastination is like masturbation, it seems like a good idea, but you're only screwing yourself.

[oddball]

Originally Posted by Zoomschwortz

...All the more reason they wouldn't launch. With their missile technology, they would be lucky to get within miles of what they wanted to hit and we would know where it was coming from before it got here. Same thing with an EMP, we would know where it came from and could take them out.

That's what's so damned scary about an EMP option. One does not need absolute accuracy to detonate above a given target. Some of the world's nuclear weapons experts agree that an EMP attack can be launched from a freighter out in international waters (Iran did a missile test from a ship at sea), detonated in the atmosphere, and nobody would have an absolute I.D. on the party that launched it. If an EMP attack occured with the above circumstances, who would you launch against? Also, would a leader have the resolve to nuke an entire country out of orbit because of an EMP attack?

Iran and North Korea just might have bigger aspirations other than suitcase bombs...

[j6ppc]

Originally Posted by oddball

If an EMP attack occured with the above circumstances, who would you launch against? Also, would a leader have the resolve to nuke an entire country out of orbit because of an EMP attack?

Iran and North Korea just might have bigger aspirations other than suitcase bombs...

They'd also need significantly larger devices and a way to reliably get them to altitude to execute a successful EMP attack.