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Old 11-10-2007, 07:31 PM   #1
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Pipe Selection

I am looking to start out in the world of pipe smoking and I have been looking to purchase a pipe. It seems to me after you have decided what kind of pipe to purchase the style is a matter of personal preference. Am I correct? Do you guys have any helpful hints on picking out a nice pipe for the money? I have decided on trying a briar pipe to start.
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I am looking to start out in the world of pipe smoking and I have been looking to purchase a pipe. It seems to me after you have decided what kind of pipe to purchase the style is a matter of personal preference. Am I correct? Do you guys have any helpful hints on picking out a nice pipe for the money? I have decided on trying a briar pipe to start.


Savinelli & Stanwell pipes are hard to beat within their price range, which is very reasonable. One of the big concerns for you will be whether you want a straight pipe or a bent pipe. Bent pipes, for the most part, are easier to hold in your mouth and smoke a bit drier that straight pipes. Only you can decide, after trying a few different shapes. Bent pipes come in a number of angles, 1/8 bent, 1/4 bent, 3/4 bent and full bent. Personally, I prefer a 1/8 bent to a 1/4 bent maximum.

The following is a bit long but can be very helpful, so take the time to read it!


Selecting a pipe is a subtly complex exercise. If you have been in a pipe shop and watched someone buy a pipe, you may have wondered what was taking so long. There are a myriad of factors that go into finding and buying the right pipe for yourself, and even more so in choosing a pipe as a gift. Unfortunately, very little has been written about how to buy your first (or second, or third) pipe. This guide will examine the factors involved in choosing a pipe for yourself, and will hopefully alleviate some of the perplexing questions beginning pipe smokers have. A separate guide Choosing Gifts for Pipe Smokers examines the extra steps involved in buying a pipe as a gift for someone else.

A pipe must meet several requirements in order to satisfy you. They can be roughly divided into the following categories; Aesthetic, Mechanical, and Financial. Let's examine each of them, in order of importance, hopefully building up a solid foundation of knowledge with which to buy your first pipe with confidence that you have selected a well-made pipe that appeals to you and that you can afford, that will provide you with years of smoking enjoyment.

1) Aesthetics:

You must enjoy the look and feel of the pipe. All other considerations pale in comparison to this one. It will not matter if you have purchased a mechanically flawless pipe at an insanely good price, if, in a few weeks or months, you find that you do not smoke it any longer because it is not your style. It doesn't matter if a pipe is crafted by a big-name carver or a well-known factory if it does not appeal to you, then it is not a good candidate for purchase.

So, the first rule is: Buy pipes you like. Pretty easy so far, right? Well, how do you know what you like? If you are new to pipe smoking, you may not be entirely sure of what types of pipes suite you best, or excite you most. The best advice in that case is to look at pipes. Look at lots of pipes. Take every opportunity to check out interesting selections. Look at all of the different pipe styles. Sooner or later (probably sooner), a pipe is going to reach out and take hold of you and whisper quietly to you 'take me home'. When this happens, you must be prepared to move on to the next aspect of pipe buying, the physical inspection.

2) Mechanical Considerations:

The pipe must be constructed in such a manner as to bring you pleasure from smoking it. It must not have design flaws that cause it to be impossible to keep clean, lit, or even together. The question, especially for beginning pipe smokers, is how to tell if a pipe is well made.

You need to know, then, what to look for in both a well-made, and a shoddily made pipe, so that you can tell the difference, and buy only those pipes that are well made.

First and foremost, a list of things to avoid. The presence of any one of the following should not be a cause for great concern. However, a pipe that has more than a few of these attributes might be one to take a pass on.

A) Poorly aligned parts - quality pipes have a precisely aligned and perfectly smooth airway from the draft hole in the bowl to the end of the mouthpiece. Any disruption in the smoke stream (such as a misaligned mortise and tenon union) is going to cause turbulence and can cause the pipe to smoke loudly and wet. Be aware that some pipes are purposely designed with some type of moisture 'trap' that does work well for some people.

B) 'Fills' - large holes or pits in the pipe, filled in with putty. While these may not interfere with the actual smoking of the pipe, they may not color and age as gracefully as the rest of the briar and could cause a mottled appearance of the pipe. Briar is a natural product and you may not know how deep a fill actually is.

C) Metal filters - these inserts in the stems of some low grade pipes will cause condensation, resulting in a noisy, wet smoke.

D) Varnish - Pipe makers at all different levels use a dizzying array of finishes on their pipes. While most finishes will have no effect on a pipe, other than how long it stays shiny, it's best to avoid varnished finishes or 'sealed' finishes because they might tend to flake or bubble. There are always exceptions to every rule and there are some very well made pipes that use heavy finishes and are quite desirable, smokable, and collectible.

Besides these things to look out for, you should be on the lookout for the following characteristics of a well-made pipe:

Grain: The more uniform the grain, and the tighter the grain, the higher the price of the pipe, but overall, this has little to no effect on the smoking quality.

Weight: The lighter a pipe is, everything else being equal, the better it will smoke. Okay, that's a pretty bold statement. The truth of the matter is that a lot of folks are looking for a pipe that 'feels lighter than it should' . A lighter pipe is easier to hold in your mouth and therefore less fatiguing. A pipe that is light for its size may also have been cured more thoroughly (moisture removal).

sandpit's: sandpit's happen, and there really isn't anything wrong with them, but the fewer of them in a pipe, the better.

Fit and finish: The pipe should look as if it was made with care. There should not be any obvious sandpaper marks, uneven stain, or bald spots without wax. The inside of the bowl should not be stained. The stem and shank should join well.

Draft hole: This should be as close as possible to the center of the bowl, and should align perfectly with the airhole in the stem. It should also terminate in the bottom of the bowl, not partway up the side.

3) Financial Considerations:

You must be able to afford the pipe. The most basic financial rule of pipe purchasing, and of almost any other purchase, is this: "Buy the absolute best you can afford." You can't go wrong by buying quality. Pipes are available in a vast range of prices, from under $20.00 to well into the $1,000's, with plenty of well-made pipes in each price category. You should strive to get the greatest value for your money., The reason this is the final consideration is that pipes are not cheap or expensive, they are either good smokers, or bad smokers, and without careful consideration of the aesthetics and mechanics, a cheap pipe and an expensive pipe are equally likely to be a good smoker, or a bad one.

Having read and applied the principles above, you should have a good foundation of knowledge to apply to your pipe purchasing, and you should have figured out why it takes so long to pick out a pipe!

Here are a few myths you may run across while shopping for a pipe, and an explanation of each.

Pipe Buying Myths:

Myth: 'Buy a cheap pipe for your first one, so you haven't lost much if you decide you don't like it.'

Reality: Buying an inexpensive pipe as your first pipe is probably a recipe for disaster. While there are well made, inexpensive pipes available, without some experience in what to look for, you are likely to buy a pipe with some serious mechanical problems, which will give you a devil of a time as you try to learn to smoke a pipe.

Myth: Pipes are fashion accessories.

Reality: Pipes are pipes. They are fashioned to smoke tobacco in, not to be an accompaniment to your jacket or tie. They are not shoes or cuff-links. You should buy pipes because you like them, not because they match some outfit you own.

Myth: The shape of your face should determine the type/size of pipe you buy.

Reality: You should buy pipes that you enjoy looking at, holding, and smoking. Who really cares if your face is 'tall and lean' and you prefer squat, fat-bowled pipes. It would be a shame to limit your pipe horizons for such a silly reason.

Myth: Meerschaum pipes are for 'experienced' smokers.

Reality: Meerschaum pipes are somewhat more fragile than a briar pipe, and have different physical properties, but that is no reason not to buy one for your first pipe if that is what you desire.
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:48 PM   #3
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Re: Pipe Selection

I could do a very long reply to this one, but I'll keep it short:

Straight pipes look classy but are less comfortable than bents (on teeth), however when moisture collects in the bottom of bowl it is easier to mop-up with a pipe cleaner in a straight than a bent.

Thick walled pipes will get less hot to hold, and tend to smoke easier.

Bent or straight, go for a thick walled, waxed and not varnished pipe. A good beginners price is around the $70-100 mark. Take a look at

www.smokingpipes.com

this is a good site to get you into the idea, when you see a few you like send a post and ask for opinions.

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Old 11-10-2007, 08:02 PM   #4
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Re: Pipe Selection

Here are few Savinelli Pipes to consider. They are on special at Iwanries in Chicago.

http://www.iwanries.com/Sasieni_C272.cfm

How about the Sasieni Walnut 2 for a great starter pipe?
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Old 11-10-2007, 08:28 PM   #5
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My first couple of pipes were petersons, great pipes at a great price.
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My first pipe was a $3 corn cob pipe. Now I have purchsed 5 over the past couple weeks.
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I agree that Savinellis are a superb buy. Try a straight pipe to start with, then see where it takes you.
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Thanks for the informative post, just running through the check list mentally and it is reassuring. I bought my second pipe a few weeks ago and purchased 3 extates pipes last night and I am having fun getting to know them as I bring them back to life. As I start to smoke them and compare them I will gain a baseline of experinces with each pipe, letting me know what is what.
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I am looking to start out in the world of pipe smoking and I have been looking to purchase a pipe. It seems to me after you have decided what kind of pipe to purchase the style is a matter of personal preference. Am I correct? Do you guys have any helpful hints on picking out a nice pipe for the money? I have decided on trying a briar pipe to start.
Briar is the way to go. I recommend a Bjarne Nielsen or Peterson pipe to start (that's what I have ). Both offer well made pipes under $100 dollars. I wouldn't go cheaper than $50 or $60, even for your first pipe, but that's just me.

Aesthetics are imporant in a pipe. Bent or straight; sandblasted or smooth; etc. Why buy a pipe that you don't like looking at, or that doesn't feel right in your hand? Smoking qualities are most important, but be sure to buy a pipe that you actually like looking at and holding.

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http://www.cupojoes.com/cgi-bin/dept...ch=DW&tier2=T1


Where do you live? It will be important to find a good pipe shop/tobacconist in your area, particularly in selecting your tobacco. Let him/her know you're just starting out and ask for recommendations. If you smoke cigars or already have tobacco habits/preferences then let them know so they can factor that in.

Most of all, good luck, and hang in there. Pipe smoking isn't as simple as it seems, but it is the most rewarding means of smoking, and a wonderful way to pass the time. Coming here was a good place to start.
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How often can a Briar pipe be smoked, i.e., does it need to "rest" between uses?

Are Briars bad to use with aromatic blends?

Hope this isn't a threadjack, just trying to help others and myself who are pipe newbs.
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How often can a Briar pipe be smoked, i.e., does it need to "rest" between uses?

Are Briars bad to use with aromatic blends?

Hope this isn't a threadjack, just trying to help others and myself who are pipe newbs.
I smoke a pipe once a day and let it rest for a day before picking it up again.
Brairs aren't "bad" to smoke aromatics in. The aromatics may leave a "ghost", or leftover taste in the bowl if you switch to a different tobacco after the aro. This is why many smokers dedicate pipes to certain blends or classes of tobacco. I have one pipe for latakia blends and some cobs for aromatics. The rest I smoke virginia blends in.
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I smoke a pipe once a day and let it rest for a day before picking it up again.
Brairs aren't "bad" to smoke aromatics in. The aromatics may leave a "ghost", or leftover taste in the bowl if you switch to a different tobacco after the aro. This is why many smokers dedicate pipes to certain blends or classes of tobacco. I have one pipe for latakia blends and some cobs for aromatics. The rest I smoke virginia blends in.
Kind of what I thought...thanks Brother.
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Great!!! Now I have to buy five more. I am sliding down the slippery slope fast...
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well made pipes can be smoked several times in the same day. I rarely do this as I like variety, but it can be done. But after you use it for a day, you may want to let it rest at least a day. Some won't touch the pipe again for a week.

I was told by Larry Roush not to be afraid to smoke his pipes all day, several times a day. He told Greg Pease this and challanged him to do so with one of his pipes. From what I understand, Mr. Pease became a believer.
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I would suggest a Peterson Donegal Rocky. The briar is tough and handles abuse well, its difficult to scorch the rim, its rusticated, it should smoke well and cool and it only costs about $70. I think most of the mistakes you'll make while learning to smoke can be handled in stride by the DR. It also comes in a variety of different styles so you can choose what suits your interests.
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