Pipe "psuedo-elitism" or hoping for a higher standard....

[LasciviousXXX]

Originally Posted by IHT

i considered you a good friend, dustin...

In keeping with what I said I would do in regards to posting on this topic I will reply via PM.

[poker]

Originally Posted by kheffelf

You are the one instigating in a place that you probably shouldn't be in. I didn't ding you, but with this post I can see a lot more people doing it.

Hate to say it, but I will...

NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY has any right to tell another member which sub-forum of CS they should or should not be in. We are all members of CS as a whole, and any member who has access to a particular sub-forum here is allowed to post here.

[kheffelf]

Originally Posted by poker

Hate to say it, but I will...

NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY has any right to tell another member which sub-forum of CS they should or should not be in. We are all members of CS as a whole, and any member who has access to a particular sub-forum here is allowed to post here.

Did you not read farther down where I tried to explain what I meant with that post. Keep piling on me though. It was me trying to tell him that he was just down here instigating trouble and I didn't think that was needed. Looking out sometimes gets a lot of crap thrown at you though. Also if you look at the thread I made that comment after he bumped his old thread because he got dinged for it, which is when I stated that I didn't think his opinion in this thread was needed because to me it was obvious what he was doing, but you guys can keep reading what you want out of my post. It is obvious I have been in the wrong for awhile, especially the way you mods are jumping on me. There are other post in this thread that you guys could have jumped on. So, I will sum this up, I didn't mean that he didn't have a right to post in the pipe forum, I meant that his post in this thread were just nothing but trouble and he reinstated my opinion with that when he bumped his own post and openly discussed ring gauge. And my last point is that Pete has posted in the pipe forum before and I'm pretty sure I didn't ask him to leave and not post here anymore.

[poker]

Look, Im not "piling on" as you say. I dont read what other mods have posted. All Im saying is nobody has a right to say that someone should or should not be in a particular sub-forum of CS, and if I see it happening, I will become involved on my own accord. Thats it. Nothing more, nothing less.
I dont post in the pipe forum because I dont regularly smoke a pipe, but when it gets brought to my attention there is issues, I will make an effort to resolve it.

[Mr.Lordi]

I'm confused, and it's not my place to say anything, but I don't understand where this "elitist" idea of the pipe guys is coming from.

Since I have joined here, I have never seen the pipe guys be anything but helpful to new guys.They have never been anything but helpful to me as well.

The pipe forums are a joking bunch though and they tend to mess with the cigar guys that come down here from time to time, but usaly the cigar guy is Well known and friends with someone or all down here. They never do it out of malice or elitism.


But honestly, I don't know what is going on and where people are coming from on this.

[kheffelf]

Originally Posted by poker

Look, Im not "piling on" as you say. I dont read what other mods have posted. All Im saying is nobody has a right to say that someone should or should not be in a particular sub-forum of CS, and if I see it happening, I will become involved on my own accord. Thats it. Nothing more, nothing less.
I dont post in the pipe forum because I dont regularly smoke a pipe, but when it gets brought to my attention there is issues, I will make an effort to resolve it.

I understand completely, I just wanted to make sure it was clear that I didn't mean it the way it was took and tried to explain that a couple times. To me right now though, it seems like I am being piled upon by some mods.

[poker]

Good. Now I want you & replicant_argent to kiss/hug/reacharound & make up.

[mikeyj23]

Originally Posted by poker

Good. Now I want you & replicant_argent to kiss/hug/reacharound & make up.

[Mr.Lordi]

Originally Posted by mikeyj23

Yay for homoerotica!....wait, did I just say that? *walks away ashamed* lol

[Thillium]

I personally like elitism, I believe it helps breed a higher standard within a group, and you can still be an elitist but not be rude about like most elitists I encounter are.

[[OT] Loki]

I don't see anything wrong with wanting a thread to stay on topic and not get into the "my butt itches" type of posts that have become so common on cs....this thread is a nice example

[Mr.Lordi]

Originally Posted by Thillium

I personally like elitism, I believe it helps breed a higher standard within a group, and you can still be an elitist but not be rude about like most elitists I encounter are.

I don't think anyone is saying there is anything wrong with elitism, as it can be good from time to time. but what there saying is that on CS it isn't tolerated because this is meant to be a open board for anyone and everyone. Which I am sure we can all agree is best.

[poker]

Good reading for putting things back into perspective:

http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showthread.php?t=83704

[cigar_040]

FWIW.....

I came down here originally by reading a thread here and there. The more I read, the more I liked it. It's a different pace and that suits me just fine. I commend Greg on what he did here and wanted the pipe forum to be......I appreciate it
alot.

Do I think of pipe members being elite........?? Not in the least.

My 2 cent's

[IHT]

Originally Posted by poker

Good reading for putting things back into perspective:

http://www.clubstogie.com/vb/showthread.php?t=83704

ironic you post that link, kelly, as THAT is EXACTLY how the pipe sub-forums members attempted to act and want it kept, and i think of ANY of the forums, the pipe area (and coffee) were the closest to what the original intentions of CS were meant to be.
yet now we seem to be villified for it.