Pipe "psuedo-elitism" or hoping for a higher standard....

[fireman43]

Originally Posted by cigar_040

FWIW.....


Do I think of pipe members being elite........?? Not in the least.

My 2 cent's

I'm not an elitist. I'm an a$$hole who happens to smoke a pipe. As far as the higher standard thing. I try to hold myself to a higher standard. It's a personal thing that has nothing to do with elitism or snobbery. That's why I will not post my feelings about this whole ordeal openly on the boards. It would come across the wrong way and only add fuel to the fire. I will say this though... I don't care who posts in the pipe forums. All I really care about is that when they do post it adds something to the forum and the community as a whole. That's just my personal feeling as a member, and applies to the whole community, not just the basement. We have a ton of BS threads, and a whole forum marked off for bantering and BS'ing. Hell, we even have a sort of banter thread here in the pipe room. As for the elitists....Well, we have some that try. To say we don't is nonsense. Any public forum the size of CS is going to have its fair share. We have the cliques of folks who think their crap doesn't smell. That's fine. I don't see pipe smokers in general as those types of members though, and the majority of people in the Jungle aren't either. Just a handful, but hell, that's what I have an ignore button for, right.
That's just the I'm going to toss on the table.

[icehog3]

Originally Posted by kheffelf

To me right now though, it seems like I am being piled upon by some mods.

Maybe I should not have quoted your post as my jump off point to try to cleat up things about the "IHT Super Mod" thread, Kyle...just seemed that your post held some of the misconceptions I felt the pipe guys had about why that thread was closed. I think we agree that at least one comment was posted in the thread that was a less than subtle jab at Greg, and that, IMO, was the main reason that thread went to $hit and got closed. So, I had no intention of piling on, and sorry if it seemed that way....looking at the way I posted my comment, it probably did to you.

[bigkev77]

Originally Posted by fireman43

I'm not an elitist. I'm an a$$hole who happens to smoke a pipe.

Now... there is something I can relate too.

I have only come across one or two pricks on here. The rest are great guys (and gal, sorry cigargal)who will go out of their way to help another forum member no matter the topic.

For those who's feelings were hurt GET OVER IT!!!! lets get back to talking about pipes and tobacco. If you can't get over it. Turn off your computer and go watch Oprah or Dr Phil and learn to manage your emotions or what ever they talk about on those shows. Just remember I AM BETTER THAN YOU!!!!

[uncballzer]

Originally Posted by bigkev77

Now... there is something I can relate too.

I have only come across one or two pricks on here. The rest are great guys (and gal, sorry cigargal)who will go out of their way to help another forum member no matter the topic.

For those who's feelings were hurt GET OVER IT!!!! lets get back to talking about pipes and tobacco. If you can't get over it. Turn off your computer and go watch Oprah or Dr Phil and learn to manage your emotions or what ever they talk about on those shows. Just remember I AM BETTER THAN YOU!!!!

I say we get back to smoking cigars or the pipe. If you don't have one, PM and I'll send you a Padron or a cob + something to pack it with.

[Da Klugs]

I slept with a bunch of girls is high school but kept my mouth shut about it. No accolades from the boys club but no vilification for me or the girls in question.

However, some others would chat it up .. hurt their future prospects and the reputation of both them and the girls in question.

Thinking about it, specific to the ongoing comments about the nature of the pipe forum, focusing on making it so vs making hurtful comments contrasting it to the rest of CS to the detriment of the rest of CS might be the best course of action for it's contributing members.

[Mr.Lordi]

Originally Posted by bigkev77

Now... there is something I can relate too.

I have only come across one or two pricks on here. The rest are great guys (and gal, sorry cigargal)who will go out of their way to help another forum member no matter the topic.

For those who's feelings were hurt GET OVER IT!!!! lets get back to talking about pipes and tobacco. If you can't get over it. Turn off your computer and go watch Oprah or Dr Phil and learn to manage your emotions or what ever they talk about on those shows. Just remember I AM BETTER THAN YOU!!!!

Friends, country men, romans, lend me your ears.

4 score and 7 years ago our founding brothers created this new site to be a place where all B/SOTL could come and co-exist peacefully, like humans and fish, and discuss our love of Tobacco. It was thought to be a place, where we would ask not what our fellow smokers could do for us, but what we could do for our fellow smokers.

We have joined together time and again to fight those that would wish to keep us from our most joyous pastime. We rose against them, and said "We will not vanish into the night, we will not perish without a fight, we're going to smoke on, we're going to survive" So that one day, we can again smoke in bars and sing "Free at last, free at last, thank god almighty we are free at last"

Let us not bicker and argue, but combine again as one. Now, everyone light up a pipe or cigar and sing "We are the champions" together, so we may be as one. Then for the hell of it we will do a rousing rendition of "Fat Bottomed Girls"

[bigkev77]

Originally Posted by uncballzer

I say we get back to smoking cigars or the pipe. If you don't have one, PM and I'll send you a Padron or a cob + something to pack it with.

Uncballzer PM sent

[bigkev77]

Originally Posted by bigkev77

Now... there is something I can relate too.

I have only come across one or two pricks on here. The rest are great guys (and gal, sorry cigargal)who will go out of their way to help another forum member no matter the topic.

For those who's feelings were hurt GET OVER IT!!!! lets get back to talking about pipes and tobacco. If you can't get over it. Turn off your computer and go watch Oprah or Dr Phil and learn to manage your emotions or what ever they talk about on those shows. Just remember I AM BETTER THAN YOU!!!!

Just adding some rediculous humor to a more so subject. I see so much of this bickering in the harley forums that when i saw it here i figured i would ad a post that was as usefull as the res of what has been going on her the past few days.

This is a great forum. Lets join in with Mr.Lordi and his rousing speach. "WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS"

[DriftyGypsy]

keeping mouth shut

[DubintheDam]

To me this pipe forum stood out above all others when I first joined, I hesitated because it was, after all, a cigar forum (and I don't like cigars) but joined it because it had a sense of community about it that was healthy. The 'we're the incrowd...and those are not' element didn't seem to be a part of the forum all at, surprising when that: 'lets all laugh at stupid' element dominates so many forums of any kind on the web.

Today, I suspect the forum is still sound and true to it's cause and ideals...I think some of the more observant and older members see changes and the odd jerk on a bad day and take it a little to heart...and rightly so, they being the proud parents of a well regarded child...

I think we can all agree on these basic points:

1. People can by all means be casual but should also bring some content

2. We should always act as nice fellow's and refrain from being too 'smart assed'.

3. Moderators should always be suitably appreciated and appropriate respect paid. This is not a joke!

4. Should anyone have a political issue it should remain a 'PM' to be hashed out between relevant parties.

There's mine...I await pending fallout....

[Mr.Lordi]

In CLUB STOGIE, a Declaration of Independence....the twelfth of May, two-thousand and eight.

We hold these truths to be self evident, that all smokers are created equal ,that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are the ability to ask redundant questions, discuss the tobacco of their choice without persecution and the pursuit of Happiness with a cigar or pipe,- That to secure these rights, Governments of Mods are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the owner of CS,laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form. That to keep such rights all civilians must adhere to this code of jungle conduct, or else our nation may fall.


-John Handcock

Mr.Lordi



LOL, granted I didn't add the whole thing, and it might be paraphrased a little bit, but if you look at it, it's almost as if the Declaration was made for these fourms.

[dogsplayinpoker]

elitist= The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class

I like these best.
C'mon fellas, I believe we are getting a little too personally involved in a ridiculous argument. I have been called a lot of things in my life. Mostly by people who either don't know me at all or people who know me intimately. I tend to disregard both sets and use my inner compass to determine if I have sleighted someone. The one question that I have always asked is," Is this worth getting pissed about, actually wasting my time on this planet responding to a thoughtless or/and uninformed comment?"
Elitist; naw. Sociopath; possibly.

[wharfrathoss]

as i sit here smoking a pipe (sold to me so cheaply by a forum member that it was basically a gift), enjoying some C&D Odessa (which i picked on the recomendation of another forum member), i'll just add....

pipers or cigar smokers, both = good people

now how about some more pipe talk?

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by kheffelf

Did you not read farther down where I tried to explain what I meant with that post. Keep piling on me though.

Your comments deserved to be piled on. There is no explaining away telling another user they should not be in a certain forum.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by DubintheDam

To me this pipe forum stood out above all others when I first joined, I hesitated because it was, after all, a cigar forum (and I don't like cigars) but joined it because it had a sense of community about it that was healthy. The 'we're the incrowd...and those are not' element didn't seem to be a part of the forum all at, surprising when that: 'lets all laugh at stupid' element dominates so many forums of any kind on the web.

Today, I suspect the forum is still sound and true to it's cause and ideals...I think some of the more observant and older members see changes and the odd jerk on a bad day and take it a little to heart...and rightly so, they being the proud parents of a well regarded child...

I think we can all agree on these basic points:

1. People can by all means be casual but should also bring some content

2. We should always act as nice fellow's and refrain from being too 'smart assed'.

3. Moderators should always be suitably appreciated and appropriate respect paid. This is not a joke!

4. Should anyone have a political issue it should remain a 'PM' to be hashed out between relevant parties.

There's mine...I await pending fallout....

Fall out?!? Heck, this is one of the best posts I have ever seen here. Thanks for posting it.