Banned from buying PIPE STUFF on Ebay by the seller?

[ahbroody]

While I dont support this I am pretty sure he is charging shipping and handling. Now handling to him is the act of getting the item getting it packed up, getting in his car and driving down to the post office(most likely) with the rising costs of fuel and energy many business are increasing these charges in an attempt to combat their rising costs.

I have always charged the cost of shipping in S&H on ebay, even undercharging a few times. However it is perfectly within the sellers right to charge what he feels fit to charge.

I guess the lesson here is that when dealing with vendors it would be good to ask how they will ship the item and demand a box. I know it seems that the vendor should do this automatically especially given the fact that the shipping for the envelope or small box would both run 4.80 by click in ship, but it never hurts for the buyer to take the initiative.

mike

[jgros001]

One seller is pipestud (http://myworld.ebay.com/pipestud/)....he was selling some Haddo's Delight with the old labeling and had it listed as discontinued. Well, he admitted it was a mistake but never changed the listing. When I politely called him on it, he got all pissy and banned me from bidding on future items. Now, I was not so concerned with my bid - I know it isn't discontinued and I really do not bid on pipestud items......but I am concerned about the new guy to the hobby thinking he is getting one thing when in reality he is just getting a tin that is a couple of years older.

The second seller is nickitimi (http://myworld.ebay.com/nickitimi/).....he had the shipping listed as priority mail and the shipping fee as $10. That I am fine with - I understood shipping to be $10 going priority mail. But instead of shipping priority mail it came regular mail with shoddy packaging. That is not what I agreed to with my bid. When I complained, and he admitted another buyer did as well, he banned me (and the other guy) from bidding on future items as well. Now, he is going to refund some of the shipping charges so what good would complaining to ebay do? Maybe they would lift the restriction, who cares? I wouldn't bid on his items again anyway.

No this is not brotherly - nor is it even good for business. I don't know why people defend pipestud like he is some kind of god. His goods are usually overpriced and he does not make a concerted effort to list his items accurately. The other ebay seller, f him. He is just a bitchy liar.

There is always another seller.....so I voice my complaints with my wallet and support the classy and honest.

[Blaylock]

Originally Posted by Spongy

I just wanted another post to reach 100.

"hey, we have a topic designated to talk about whatever. it's found by CLICKING HERE.
it was made so we could post whatever you want.
shouldn't be too hard to put your “Look at me…I’ve got 100 posts" in there
instead of thread jacking your own post, as nice as it may be!
i forgot to mention that it's called the Open Tread (pipe forum)as well."


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[BigFrankMD]

Exactly why I avoid ebay like the plague.

[croatan]

Jeff, how about a dtpa suit? The trebled damages aren't much, but we can recover a buttload of atty fees.

And at Dave

[Spongy]

Originally Posted by Blaylock

"hey, we have a topic designated to talk about whatever. it's found by CLICKING HERE.
it was made so we could post whatever you want.
shouldn't be too hard to put your “Look at me…I’ve got 100 posts" in there
instead of thread jacking your own post, as nice as it may be!
i forgot to mention that it's called the Open Tread (pipe forum)as well."


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Touche' Pussycat. [SIZE="1"]<--- Tom & Jerry reference[/SIZE]

[Spongy]

What type of response would the seller give you if you just underpaid them by $8. The $8 they were going to pocket from the overcharging on shipping?

To add to the list jgros001 just put, I'll add my all time least favorite: JUDDS!
They may be the original overcharger for tins on Ebay. It's well documented here by another member... He payed $8 for shipping for one (1) tin of Dunhill DeLuxe Navy Rolls. He received said tin with cardboard bent around the tin and taped in the shape of a box with postage paid for $2!!
Zero packing material, just old cardboard folded around the tin and taped.

[jgros001]

Originally Posted by croatan

Jeff, how about a dtpa suit? The trebled damages aren't much, but we can recover a buttload of atty fees.

And at Dave

wouldn't that be fun!!

[monsoon]

Originally Posted by Spongy

Zero packing material, just old cardboard folded around the tin and taped.

Last pipe I bought on Ebay was shipped like this.....pretty much. That Mastro de Paja ... which arived fine & without a hitch, but I would have been pretty sore if it hadn't, due to the way it shipped. Paid $3.50 for shipping & postage was $2 less than that .... The pipe taped up in some thin soft foam sheet, a chunk of bent cardboard taped around that & placed into a paper mailing envelope.

Again ... it all came to me fine & I thought "oh well" .... but it could have been easily damaged.

[wharfrathoss]

i don't know about y'all, but i take shipping charges into account when i bid-if someone wants to make profit offa shipping charges, they'll get less profit from me in my bid-if i don't win the pipe, so be it

[DSturg369]

Unless it's something heavy, oversized, or bulky, I won't pay over $7 max for shipping.

And...... I also count it as the "total price" paid for an item.

[croatan]

Originally Posted by wharfrathoss

i don't know about y'all, but i take shipping charges into account when i bid-if someone wants to make profit offa shipping charges, they'll get less profit from me in my bid-if i don't win the pipe, so be it

I think everyone takes shipping into account for what they want to pay for an item. Unless I'm mistaken, the gripe is when the seller promises to ship an item via a certain method (quicker, more expensive), but instead ships it another way (slower, cheaper). It's not about someone charging a little more for shipping (to compensate for low item price or otherwise). That's common and, in my opinion, not a big deal--as long as you know what you're paying for.

[Mad Hatter]

I believe Ebay is now setup where you can leave negative feedback without worry of retaliation. Hit 'im where it hurts!

Having said that: some of these guys do consignment. It takes time to do emails, listings, mailing, packaging, etc. If they're only gonna charge minimum wage rates for labor they may as well go to work at the 7-11, 'coz all that stuff gets into more time than what you think. I won a pipe a few days ago that cost me $10 with $16 shipping. I had no competition on bidding and when it was done and the smoke cleared I had an $80 pipe for $26. That's cool with me, but if it arrives in an envelope you can bet I'll leave negative feedback and won't even take the time to get pissed off.

Bottom line is if you know you're gonna get screwed and you walk into it then you got no one to blame but yourself, but if the seller screws you on his part of the agreement then (than, then, than, then............ I can't remember which is witch) hit his ass with a negative.

[JacksonCognac]

Well I think if they have high shipping charges, you need to factor that into the purchasing decision. I know that if I were to sell some stuff I would be tempted to have a higher shipping fee - not to rip any buyers off, but to shelter some of my "final value fee" from ebay.

Now if a buyer were to complain to me, I would explain that logic to them and tell them next time to consider the total price shipped when bidding on an item. I agree with you in that I think that the seller probably didn't handle the situation very well, but I also feel that as a buyer you should also consider the total price (given the type of shipping service) when bidding on an item. So yeah... thats my opinion.

[n3uka]

At the bottom of every auction on ebay is an option to report the listing.
One of the reasons for reporting is called listing violations for excessive shipping
charges and circumventing of ebay fees. If enough people are notifying them
about it they will do something as they want their full fees.