Banned from buying PIPE STUFF on Ebay by the seller?

[Spongy]

Has anyone been banned by a dumbass.... errr..... I mean, by a seller who can't take constructive criticism?

What would you do if you won an auction, paid $10 for shipping, then received it in a bubble envelope and cost around $2 to ship???

Would you expect to be banned from that sellers future auctions?
What if you questioned, on an open forum, a sellers "shady" wording to their auctions (and they even publicly admitted it)?

Would you expect to be banned? I guess they have the right to ban whoever they so choose, but is it "brotherly"?

That may be a question that answers itself since the problems all take root with the seller purposefully misrepresenting what they are selling (like saying a tin of tobacco is out of production when it's not), or severely overcharging for shipping (and stating it will be sent USPS or whatever) while only paying 1/5th the amount they charged you - which to me, is very unbrotherly.

If these jackholes were online vendors, they would be blacklisted throughout the online forum communities.
Why are they given a free pass by the pipe community for what they pull on Ebay then?

[[OT] Loki]

doesn't seem right to me. which ebayer is it so we know not to deal with them

[croatan]

Originally Posted by Spongy

That may be a question that answers itself since the problems all take root with the seller purposefully misrepresenting what they are selling (like saying a tin of tobacco is out of production when it's not), or severely overcharging for shipping (and stating it will be sent USPS or whatever) while only paying 1/5th the amount they charged you - which to me, is very unbrotherly.

I call it fraud.

[chenvt]

Originally Posted by Spongy

Has anyone been banned by a dumbass.... errr..... I mean, by a seller who can't take constructive criticism?

What would you do if you won an auction, paid $10 for shipping, then received it in a bubble envelope and cost around $2 to ship???

Would you expect to be banned from that sellers future auctions?
What if you questioned, on an open forum, a sellers "shady" wording to their auctions (and they even publicly admitted it)?

Would you expect to be banned? I guess they have the right to ban whoever they so choose, but is it "brotherly"?

That may be a question that answers itself since the problems all take root with the seller purposefully misrepresenting what they are selling (like saying a tin of tobacco is out of production when it's not), or severely overcharging for shipping (and stating it will be sent USPS or whatever) while only paying 1/5th the amount they charged you - which to me, is very unbrotherly.

If these jackholes were online vendors, they would be blacklisted throughout the online forum communities.
Why are they given a free pass by the pipe community for what they pull on Ebay then?

That's BS.. and in fact, fleabay rules don't allow such things. Have you reported it to ebay? They're mostly useless, but worth a shot

[Ironfreak]

They do it to add to their total profit on the item. Ebay does not calculate 'shipping costs' into their Final-Value Fee Calculation.

Go type 'Humidors' into ebay's search box and you will see alot of items at $9-15 range with $29 shipping costs.. Flat rate shipping costs around $10-12, so they pocket the rest.

[cbsmokin]

If you do not like a sellers shipping charges or descriptions don't bid on their stuff.

[dogsplayinpoker]

Originally Posted by cbsmokin

If you do not like a sellers shipping charges or descriptions don't bid on their stuff.

I don't think he minded the charges, if that is what the shipping costs. If I pay $10 for shipping, I don't expect to get my pipe in a bubble wrap envelope with a $2 shipping stamp on it.

[Sawyer]

I know who you are talking about and I stay away from his and another pipe seller's auctions because of their deceptive pricing/shipping practices.

[Spongy]

Originally Posted by cbsmokin

If you do not like a sellers shipping charges or descriptions don't bid on their stuff.

A) I don't
B) As dogsplayinpoker plainly stated, it's not the amount, it's the fact that they say & charge one thing, then ship a vastly cheaper way and pocket the rest

I never stated that "I" was banned from bidding, was asking if anyone else has.

Originally Posted by Sawyer

I know who you are talking about and I stay away from his and another pipe seller's auctions because of their deceptive pricing/shipping practices.

Well, bro, seems that there are more than a couple that are now doing it. Stating $8 or $10 for shipping, then sending you a tin/pipe in a bubble envelope w/ $2 postage paid.

[Spongy]

I just wanted another post to reach 100.

[volum]

Originally Posted by Spongy

I just wanted another post to reach 100.

LOL...nice

[monsoon]

Originally Posted by Spongy

I just wanted another post to reach 100.

.... whore.

[CaddoMoney]

Originally Posted by monsoon

.... whore.

You mean pseudo whore?

I'm 100000% against jackholes charging and arm and a leg for shipping and handling - yes, I realize that packing materials can cost $$ and actually packing something semi properly takes effort. I don't mind paying an additional few bucks for that but I do mind when someone tries to substidize their low starting auctions with S&H costs - unless it's something that I REALLY want, I won't do business that way if I know about it upfront.

[mugwump]

That's the main reason I've all but abandoned eBay. I hate feeling cheated on shipping charges. Heck, I sell through Amazon Marketplace and since they charge a fairly low fixed rate for shipping I always include a free upgrade to First Class or Priority and still pocket some change. And don't even get me started on those jackholes who take your money then take their sweet time before shipping and then use the slowest possible method.

[Spongy]

USPS PM boxes are FREE. Junk Mail is FREE.
I don't know what minimum wage is, but if you want to charge someone the going rate for however long it takes to crumple up some junk mail as packaging material, then pack the box, then either tape or seal the FREE USPS box, then I understand that as well.

$4.75 USPS Priority Mail
$0.00 Junk Mail fliers used for packaging material
$0.50 Time it takes to pack the box
$5.25 Total

Now, I've read about the cost of "going to the Post Office", but isn't that an implied task of SELLING a product on Ebay?

I guess it doesn't really matter, I'm not in the Pipe Smoking Hall of Fame, nor do I try to swindle extra money from buyers.... I guess I hold others to the same standard I'd hold myself to.

My wife, who has over 2k sales on Ebay, has told me a few times that they (Ebay) have been talking about cracking down on sellers who abuse the shipping/handling charges of their auctions. I can't wait until that day comes.

I see nobody has commented about the "free pass" those on ebay are getting compared to if they were an actual online vendor/business.
Imagine if Frenchy or SmokingPipes were to charge you $10 for shipping and you received the package in a flimsy plastic bubble wrapped package with $1.95 postage paid?? I think you'd have issue with that. Would you expect them to ban you from buying off their website if you questioned their shipping charges? What if they told you a tin was "out of production" and asked double to quadruple more, when the only difference was the tin artwork had been updated? <-- I know, ebay tobacco selling rules stipulate, blah, blah, blah.

Standards. Moral quality, some people have them, some people don't.